I’ve been a long term freetube user, but lately I’m finding pipeline built locally through AUR, formerly known as feetuber, a much better experience at least for me. I’ve set it up to use ytdlp and mpv all the time, so I don’t care about Piped sites. It supports Peertube already, and it’s way light, at least with mpv playing it is

There are a bunch of non bloated alternatives with whether wayland compositors and also X11 window managers, and there’s also kde/plasma, xfce and mate if still wanting full DE, plus a hybrid lxde-gtk3/lxqt (lxqt supports both X11 and wayland I believe).

If going the non bloated ways, distributions can offer some modifications on the system configurations files, so that users can start with working software out of the box, and can even offer installation meta packages for a complete set of i3/sway packages to have an equivalent DE experience. What would be left to users is custom settings to get more appealing aesthetics depending on the user, if not i3/sway, then openbox/labwc, and so on. For a DE experience including into the meta package a toolbar like yambar (works on X11 and wayland), dunst/mako, udiskie, redshift/wlsunset and so on. The missing part on non bloated alternatives is easy of configuring through buttons and widgets, and even so lxqt made an easy of configure software component for openbox, and there might be something similar for labwc.

So non systemd distributions are far from dying because of gnome’s hostility.

And if I recall correctly, several gnome users (not its huge base of course) are moving away from gnome any ways unhappy with its plugin support, given gnome is known to leave plugins unsupported on its releases and not caring about them.

The AUR PKGBUILD shows a pretty simple recipe:

build() {
  arch-meson "${pkgname}-${pkgver//+/-}" build
  meson compile -C build
}

package() {
  meson install -C build --destdir "${pkgdir}"
  # permission fix
  chmod 755 "${pkgdir}/usr/bin/ascii-draw"
}

I’ve been seeing arch-meson often used, but haven’t explored what it does. Some day…

Though it’s way more fun to use text specification, like the one referenced by @fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org

My only experience with it was with harmony-music built/installed from AUR on artix, and I couldn’t keep using it, it was consuming too munch CPU, making the fans run nuts. Not sure if it was harmony-music itself, or flutter. Apparently not the same OP experience.

maybe, he mentioned stacked mode on a tiling compositor, which is valid, but that’s not a thing on stacking compositors… BTW, the stack mode on sway doesn’t mean it turns into a stacking compositor, rather it means tabbed mode with the tabs stacked vertically. But the OP knows better.

You might try tabbed mode instead of stacking mode. It’s great, as mentioned in some comment I made, I’m not a tiling guide, but the tabbed mode on sway is great. I would guess it’s available on hyprland since it borrows some concepts from sway. However if you find a lot of trouble on hyprland enabling it (I guess you shouldn’t) you might try sway. Beware you need exceptions because otherwise everything shows up maximized, but that’s not hard byt reading the man pages, compositor documentation, and looking around on the web. BTW, on sway this global config gives tabbed mode on all workspaces: workspace_layout tabbed and of course you can chenge it to stacking, or tiling whenever you want on any workspace…

I’m not a tiling guy, and the tabbed mode on sway seems to me like the best I’ve used. I believe it’s a much better experience than stacking compositors by a lot. Having a tab bar, and everything maximized to it (except what I consider is better off floating) is the best I’ve experienced. Stacking mode is the same just that is uses too much space by stacking the tabs, so I really don’t like stacking mode. So sway tabbed mode, in combination with a tiling concept of a workspace per particular objective (I use 10) and a simple bar (yamber) has no alternative on the stacking spectrum of compositors.

BTW, if going with a stacking compositor, I recommend labwc instead. I found a smoother and way more stable experience than wayfire (some functionality stops working often like sunset functionality, and usually way behind on wlroots support, not a take on wayfire devs, just that I find it more unstable than labwc).

Of course I’m biased towards less eye candy, though I still appreciate the equivalent to basic picom/compton on the Xorg world, which is the norm on any wayland compositor AFAIK.

Of course using another distro you want to emulate is much better.

But as it’s debian based, I’m wondering if a better approach would be to use repos from another close enough distro, like derivative distros which decide to build the stuff for the distro as much as possible (that maybe won’t prevent the need of flatpak and the like).

Another approach would be using a package manager that can work on top of any distro, like Guix, at least for FLOSS software.

I use artix, so if something is not in the official artix repos pacman also look on arch repos, then it looks my personal repos (I build some personal packages, but I also use aurutils, so there are packages on one of my personal repos that are really aur packages not mine). As I prefer to package the stuff I can’t find anywhere I haven’t found the need for something like Guix, but it might come handful if in order to include some software which depends on software way old for artix or something similar to that. Just a reminder that Guix and the like will work fine as package mechanism on top of any distro given their approach to keep the software out of the common unix path hierarchy.

ohh, now it makes sense. I was referring rather to:

I try to move away from centralised aggregation like Reddit.

believing you subscribe to reddit or similar link aggregators to keep up to date with certain topics (subreddits, communities on lemmy), and usually by subscribing to the rss/atom feeds from which people share URLs most of the time and which you are interested on, then you mostly can discard such link aggregators. Lemmy offers rss feeds in case you want to follow up a community without subscribing to any lemmy instance, and I believe reddit hadn’t killed it’s similar rss feeds per subreddit.

However if it’s just for one interesting post you find, then rss/atom feeds don’t provide what you want. However, if you like a post from a rss/atom feed, most rss/atom readers allow you to include the link into favorites, so that they are available for you whenever wanting to come back to such post or to actually get deeper into it. Favorites would have a somehow similar functionality to pocket, but I agree it’s not the same, since the sources have to come from a feed, as opposed to any generic URL, however if your URLs sources come from recurrent blogs or sites, and they offer rss/atom feeds, then this would work. I’m kind of following this approach to have my rss/atom personal link aggregator, :)

rss/atom feeds?

Tiling widow managers are popular, but they’re definitely a taste.

Oh, I refered to that in your post. To me all WMs/compositors are a matter of taste, including stacking ones (on wayland from the stacking ones I only like labwc though it’s xml config is not what I would prefer). And you already clarified, but it gave me the impression that it was implicit that tiling was a matter of taste, when those WMs/compositors also offer tabbed/stacked mode, which to me it’s not tiling at all, and offers something really appealing not so easily to achieve on any stacking WM/compositor.

Regarding config, well yes, if one is looking for no config at all, and still get the WM/compositor to be useful and also to one’s liking, then that’s hard to find. But the config files once achieving what one likes and is productive with, then one barely looks at it again, and they are usually portable (usually not only across PCs, also across distros).

But I got your point, sort of “plug and play” as they said before, just install it and without any config be productive with it… I can’t imagine that. I heard river is pretty close to dwm, but I can’t tell much about it. The river idea of dynamic tiling, which seems to be the default doesn’t really appeal to me, so I would need to do tabbed mode any ways, which doesn’t seem to be the default, so at least for me it wouldn’t be that configless… But maybe it would be to dynamic tiling people.

well, for me there’s no need for eye candy. I’m happy with sway and its tabbed mode.

BTW, labwc is sort of the openbox for wayland, in case interested

See tabbed mode on sway. Not all tiling compositors are about just tiling, :)

If you’re not into tiling, but still want several of the advantages of sway, it offers a couple of additional modes, stacked and tabbed. I really loved tabbed setting some things to be floating. It’s like it sounds, it offers a horizontal tab with all windows within per workspace, maximized below the tabs… Stacked is similar but it stacks the tabs vertically. If you’d tell me before a tiling compositor has such functionality I wouldn’t have believed it. I like it better than stacking compositors, :)

Both Tubular and Libretube support SponsorBlock, in that regard both are cool. I would use Libretube first, and if no piped site works then use Tubular, but Libretube itself allow for using local connection or it could be set to only work that way as NewPipe/Tubular do, so perhaps there wouldn’t be a need for two apps.

The advantage to start with Libretube is a bit extra privacy by using a 3rd party piped site, so what youtube sees are requests from that site. But piped sites are more identifiable and therefore vulnerable to be rate limited or totally blocked. Though lately youtube has managed to block everything pretty close in time, Freetube, Pipeline, HarmonyMusic (a bit more resilient but also gets blocked), NewTube, Tubular, LibreTube, whatever.

Google is shortening the periods on which any of these frontends can be used to access youtube. Sadly, as Google offers some profit depending on the visits (more adds) then people seems not to be interested on leaving youtube, :(

uSo it doesn’t seem to be a frontend which is less prompt to functionality disruptions. Some times it takes less time and some times it takes long, but usually most if not all frontends get affected. In that regard I don’t see much difference, so that’s why I recommended Libretube first and then Tubular as an alternative. Given there’s not frontend supported by Google, in the end it’s almost a matter of taste, with any Piped solution offering a bit extra privacy if used with 3rd party piped sites, and if that site is blocked or rate limited, another one can be chosen, or even it can try on the run to connect locally, or you can actually stop using a 3rd party site at all and only connect locally. BTW, freetube can be set to use an invidio site as well, but there are way less invidio sites up and running that there are piped sites. One can self host, but then the requests to youtube will be yours any ways, though you get local subscription and nice stuff on all frontends.

I like to have an alternative though in case at least for a little while one mechanism works but the other doesn’t.

BTW, if interested on music, HarmonyMusic is a bit different frontend that can run on several platforms, gnu+linux, android and so on, and sometimes it keeps working while the other frontends don’t.

I guess there was an attempt to move away from the email flow, to allow more people to contribute (I read that was part of the motivation), perhaps that made sourcehut (although it’s in their plan, it hadn’t become their highest priority) not an option, however both can be self hosted (that’s what I would have expected from an organization as the Guix one, so that there’s no dependency on a cloud service, as good as it might be), and both have really good TOS and are non profit. But cloud services are still something its users/clients do not really own. Perhaps as I understood, savannah will still be used as a mirror, but not just temporally, rather for good, so that if something happens on the cloud, there’s plan B available… That’s why for such big and important project I would have preferred a self hosted service. But oh well, I’m not part of the decision, and not an user yet, hopefully to become one later on when getting some minimal understanding of both guile and guix configuration (still guile but I believe simpler), because no matter the distro I always have to write and maintain a few packages myself. Hopefully at some point doesn’t become never having the time to do so, hehe.

So all in all yes, the two best cloud options by far, but I’m surprised a Guix instance was not chosen, not sure if even considered.

It would have been better to self host forgejo, rather than trusting a cloud git service using forgejo. But to be honest, its TOS, as well as the sourcehut’s TOS which I even like it better, sound way better than GH’s…

Also a devclass post Mozilla quietly makes Microsoft’s GitHub the authoritative home for Firefox code suggests FF is making the GH repo the place to go as the source of truth for FF, :( This move to me is really sad, instead of moving to FLOSS alternatives it’s preferring a proprietary with a terrible hosting licensing (gitlab one is much better for example, not sure about codeberg’s one, but for sure is better as well), and what’s worse, one that uses anything hosted in there for its own purposes, including feeding openAI stuff with FLOSS code violating any licenses and so forth. Which actually makes me strengthen the idea that mozilla is trending to go in the wrong direction making things worse on every step they follow.

I use a derivative, Librewolf, but in the end it depends on the FF code… Sadly, using GH is still like the norm, and I can change that. servo browser engine and verso (browser based on servo) are also hosted on GH. But at least they started there and migrating is always a hard decision, FF is just moving there having other options, so it means they don’t care about GH mistreating users code…

This is a security feature. Other communication mechanisms having the keys somewhere else not owned by you is rather something I wouldn’t stand. And to me it’s unsafe that messages would be kept way long on the servers.

On xmpp the sync happens from server to all syncing clients, and the proper XEPs need to supported in both the client and the server.