I think letting the communiry moderators decide that would be good, since some communities like support ones would benefit, while there’s no reason not to archive posts on some others.

agreed, I don’t like linking online identities of a single person together, but just checking the posting history of a lemmygrad admin and one of lemmy develper’s reddit account clearly shows that they are the same person.

lemmy.ml is also for anarchists, right?

show instances of lemmy.ml users saying “I was joking” or “saying that abuse is a good thing” during a discussion about any alleged genocide, abuse or disater.

if we were talking about lemmygrad, I would agree, but personally lemmy.ml is a place for me that I enjoy browsing and posting to. anyway I think it’s the best opportunity for anyone interested in making a centrist or apolitical instance and get the label of “flagship instance” on joinlemmy to help it grow and become as big as lemmy.ml, it will also make it easier for people who don’t like the politics of lemmy.ml to choose an instance knowing that it has no strong political affiliation.

but I agree the folks on lemmygrad can be a little bit … let’s say annoying.

also interesting that their only problem seems to be about the “genocide”.

that’s a great idea, I think it will be much better than mastodon. it just needs a software to make different voices.

oh yeah, I was shocked how he was hoping too see “a Hitler come to power in the island if we lose this war.”

If I have understood it correctly, he wouldn’t have a problem with Hitler or Nazis if they weren’t against British people. he opposes Nazism, yet admires Hitler as if the extreme nationalism in Germany was something he wanted in the “Empire”.

I couldn’t find the exact quote, you might want to add it to this wikiquote page if you have a source. the closest I found was this:

I do not admit that the dog in the manger has the final right to the manger, even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit, for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, or, at any rate, a more worldly-wise race, to put it that way, has come in and taken their place. I do not admit it. I do not think the Red Indians had any right to say, ‘The American Continent belongs to us and we are not going to have any of these European settlers coming in here.’ They had not the right, nor had they the power.

but thank you for the post, it made me go and read some of the stuff he had said for like an hour and a half, and honestly his racism and political beliefs are mostly disgusting, yet his language is powerful.

well, it’s not just privacy. choose any topic, any thing that matters to you, and there will be a significant number of people that just don’t care. any topic, privacy, climate change, this very pandemic, factory farming, capitalism, literally anything. I disagree with the writer of the article, I think there are indeed people who don’t care about privacy at all.

now how to change that? anyone has any ideas? I personally think it’s almost impossible to do it in any meaningful way. you can try and explain how online tracking works, how much their data is being collected, talk to them about Snowden’s revealations, all that. after you’ve finished, they have already made their mind. they will either become more careful, or reject the whole idea. it is after this point that I think you just can’t change their mind anymore. so I guess having a good explanation of why privacy is important, and a good description of the current problems is what matters the most. it’s like you’ve got a single shot and it’s hit or miss.

but again it applies to everything. try to educate someone who denies climate change, they have already made their mind and I honestly don’t know how anyone can change someone’s mind at that point.

good question, I’ll probably have to create an account if I want to get into coding, but I have heard of an alternative, codeberg, which I think is FOSS, so maybe that’s a better choice? I mean isn’t it weird that all libre programs are usually hosted on github?

forgot to mention, I would have opened an issue in github if I had an account, but I don’t, if anyone could reproduce the bug, can you please open the issue?

you can’t remove the posts from c/all, but I guess you can choose to only show lemmy.ml posts in your feed.

https://lemmy.ml/post/68017/comment/57875

oh you mean nutomic banning soferman from c/worldnews? I thought nutomic banned a user for saying there’s a genocide, sorry. nutomic banned them for this comment:

Apparently I not. And apparently you can’t make value judgments on other people’s opinions either.

it wasn’t because of Uyghurs or stuff like that.

Well, it’s okay if they are like this, they just should be open about it and not do arbitrary bans for haphazard reasons while at the same time pretending to be morally superior, allowing other viewpoints and following a code of conduct. Or, if they do, they should just admit it. Which would actually be fine with me. Saying “I don’t like you being in that community, so I banned you” is better than to pretend there’s a universal truth that the banned person is a baddie.

I don’t have any problem with their idealogies either. actually I like them because it means they’re against capitalism. I was just pointing out that the nature of Lemmy and lemmy.ml isn’t really separated from the idealogy of its creators. and as I said, it has pros and cons.

that being said, I agree that banning soferman was not justified, at least not after they had changed their behavior.

nutomic banned a guy who said there’s a genocide and someone else posted said video.

seriously? can you link the thread?

other than that, idk to what extent I agree. on one hand I like certain aspects of Lemmy’s culture, linux, foss, programming, anti-capitalism, anti-corporate, privacy awareness, decentalisation, veganism, libre culture, progressive social values etc, on the other hand I don’t really like some stuff, like leftists defending putin (why? T_T ) ,being so anti-imperialism that they would call any mainstream source propaganda, turning a blind eye when it comes to China’s flaws as if it can’t possibly be wrong in any case, stuff like that.

we should consider that the way Lemmy has been developed and lemmy.ml has been maintained has been deeply ideaological. three admins are marxist-leninists, one is an anarchist and I don’t know about the other one. dessalines and nutomic (who are the two main developers as far as I know) are both deeply invested in their idealogy. personally, it doesn’t bother me. but certainly many people might not like it, I assume that’s why soferman spammed a lot of agenda posts, because the average person might feel unwelcomed and uncomfortable here. don’t get me wrong, the fact that Lemmy has been an idealogical effort is the only reason that has stopped it form becoming another reddit alternative for Nazis, so it has its own advantages and disadvantages.

one solution would be to ask admins to limit their activities to PSAs and banning spammers/scammers and sublemmies that break the code of conduct, and leaving all other forms of moderation to community moderators, which means that admins shouldn’t moderate communities, at least not with their main account. it would also require them to make anonymous accounts to participate in discussions as users instead of using the same admin account.

but do I want to see that happening? idk. maybe not for now. it really depends on what the admins and us want Lemmy and lemmy.ml to become.

Sorry I think there’s a misunderstanding, I’m not @TeaBeast . I didn’t claim it’s illegal to use them, @TeaBeast did. But yes I read the article, and it says they block some VPNs and that Tor is blocked partially. I didn’t say they can’t be used, just that it’s blocked. To be honest though, I expected much more to be banned, I had heard about this ‘Great Firewall’ for years and thought Chinese people have no way of circumvending it, but the article shows that it’s not the case. Still pretty bad since they censor the internet, but what I had heard before was really exaggerated.

According to this Wikipedia article, Tor and some VPN services are blocked using deep packet inspection.

To be fair I’ve just recently come to take privacy seriously, and I don’t know any better source than privacytools.io for general privacy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

While most free VPNs are scam, ProtonVPN is recommended by proivacytools.io and is available on F-Droid. But if you can, support them by paying for their services. Oh, and the free version doesn’t work for torrenting, for obvious reasons.