Former President Trump topped President Biden by 8 points among Michigan registered voters in a poll of a hypothetical rematch of the 2020 election. The CNN poll released Friday found 50 percent of…
Why the fuck do we always aim for “slightly better than the Republicans”?
Two party voting. In order to win, you have to get voters that are as close to your opponent as possible, without your base staying home in protest. Having a more objectionable opponent just means you can ignore your own base even more, because they’re not going to stay home when that means the other asshole might win.
In order to win, you have to get voters that are as close to your opponent as possible
That may have been the case in the 90s, but nowadays not many people occupy that space. Nobody wants an almost-Republican when they can get the real deal and if you’re morally bankrupt enough to ALMOST be a Republican, you’re usually willing to take that last step in exchange for a shitload of bribes.
without your base staying home in protest.
That’s just it: Dems arepretending that it’s always going to be 1992.
That Republicans are always going to be legitimate opposition acting in good faith rather than a fascist cult.
That just a little to the left of the GOP is the ideologically perfect Democrat and always will be.
This stubborn insistence on keeping up pretenses and never admitting they’re wrong or trying another way is costing them a shitload more people staying home than they’re gaining independents or wavering Republicans.
It’s why Democrats are only winning by the slimmest of margins and even lost the House at a time when winning by landslides should be easier than ever since the opposition is the most incompetent fascist party in history and the majority of the population is to the left of center. Not just left at where neoliberals pretend that the center is, left of ACTUAL center.
you have to get voters that are as close to your opponent as possible
That is one of the dumbest opinions I’ve ever heard, but don’t feel bad, the people running the DNC share it too.
Some of us are just in the “sweet spot” where we’re old enough to remember 08 Obama but young enough the normal mental effects of aging haven’t made us forget yet.
Obama was the furthest from center Dem we’ve ran in decades, and he was flipping red states all over.
What you said just isn’t based in reality, it’s just what neoliberals have been repeating for 30 years over and over and over…
It doesn’t make it true.
Because whether the “moderate” candidate beats the Republican or loses, the neoliberals will always say whatever just happened is proof we need to be more conservative.
All it’s led to is running a candidate that needs over a billion dollars spent to beat donald fucking trump in a presidential election.
My dumb ass dog could beat trump. And he doesnt even have opposable thumbs. And there’s a very good chance Biden can’t beat trump twice.
What I said is what got Clinton, Obama, and Biden elected. Not saying it’s a great thing, it’s just reality. Neither party has the base to win on their own, the GoP is a lot closer to being able to do it due to voter turn out rates. So they either chase the middle, or demonize their opponent to get more of their base off the couch.
Hmm, sounds like maybe he shouldn’t have bypassed Congress multiple times to sell arms to israel. Or avoided structuring transfers to avoid congressional oversight
Biden literally ran on being able to work with Republicans in Congress…
Then when everyone got surprised and dems won the presidency, Senate, and House, suddenly Biden said it would be pointless for him to try and change even a democrats vote.
But he still ran again in 2024 despite admitting the entire reason he said he should be president was bullshit
Obviously it’s yes to both…
But why would Biden wait for Republicans to do anything before he stops using my fucking tax dollars to pay for a genocide?
What exactly about Trump being the worst president we’ve ever had makes Biden ok no matter what?
Why the fuck do we always aim for “slightly better than the Republicans”?
Do you think of we do that one day Republicans will magically get better?
If not, we’re going to keep getting worse at the same fucking pace as republicans, just following behind them.
How the f uck do so many people not understand any of this.
Seriously, do you only plan your life 20 minutes ahead of time?
The neoliberal to fascist pipeline is a lot wider than the neoliberal to socialist pipe.
Two party voting. In order to win, you have to get voters that are as close to your opponent as possible, without your base staying home in protest. Having a more objectionable opponent just means you can ignore your own base even more, because they’re not going to stay home when that means the other asshole might win.
That may have been the case in the 90s, but nowadays not many people occupy that space. Nobody wants an almost-Republican when they can get the real deal and if you’re morally bankrupt enough to ALMOST be a Republican, you’re usually willing to take that last step in exchange for a shitload of bribes.
That’s just it: Dems arepretending that it’s always going to be 1992.
That Republicans are always going to be legitimate opposition acting in good faith rather than a fascist cult.
That just a little to the left of the GOP is the ideologically perfect Democrat and always will be.
This stubborn insistence on keeping up pretenses and never admitting they’re wrong or trying another way is costing them a shitload more people staying home than they’re gaining independents or wavering Republicans.
It’s why Democrats are only winning by the slimmest of margins and even lost the House at a time when winning by landslides should be easier than ever since the opposition is the most incompetent fascist party in history and the majority of the population is to the left of center. Not just left at where neoliberals pretend that the center is, left of ACTUAL center.
That is one of the dumbest opinions I’ve ever heard, but don’t feel bad, the people running the DNC share it too.
Some of us are just in the “sweet spot” where we’re old enough to remember 08 Obama but young enough the normal mental effects of aging haven’t made us forget yet.
Obama was the furthest from center Dem we’ve ran in decades, and he was flipping red states all over.
What you said just isn’t based in reality, it’s just what neoliberals have been repeating for 30 years over and over and over…
It doesn’t make it true.
Because whether the “moderate” candidate beats the Republican or loses, the neoliberals will always say whatever just happened is proof we need to be more conservative.
All it’s led to is running a candidate that needs over a billion dollars spent to beat donald fucking trump in a presidential election.
My dumb ass dog could beat trump. And he doesnt even have opposable thumbs. And there’s a very good chance Biden can’t beat trump twice.
What I said is what got Clinton, Obama, and Biden elected. Not saying it’s a great thing, it’s just reality. Neither party has the base to win on their own, the GoP is a lot closer to being able to do it due to voter turn out rates. So they either chase the middle, or demonize their opponent to get more of their base off the couch.
It ain’t complicated, but I dont think I’ll be able to get you to understand this.
Congress controls the purse, not Biden. Hope that clears things up for you.
Hmm, sounds like maybe he shouldn’t have bypassed Congress multiple times to sell arms to israel. Or avoided structuring transfers to avoid congressional oversight
Biden literally ran on being able to work with Republicans in Congress…
Then when everyone got surprised and dems won the presidency, Senate, and House, suddenly Biden said it would be pointless for him to try and change even a democrats vote.
But he still ran again in 2024 despite admitting the entire reason he said he should be president was bullshit