Surely, his sentencing will exceed hers right? Right?
“When he came to Georgia, he was aware that he was registering to vote illegally. He knew when he went in all nine times and signed that voter certificate, he was voting illegally,” he said last February.
Administrative Law Judge Lisa Boggs agreed, and issued Pritchard a $5,000 fine, and ordered that he receive a public reprimand from the State Election Board.
Surely, you jest?!
Holy fuck that’s depressingly ridiculous. This is how our democracy ends? Really, idiots getting away with the dumbest shit and lightly scolded at worst.
I fucking hate it here. I need to leave.
he pleaded guilty, admitted he made a “stupid mistake”
The string of conscious decisions over the length of time it took him to do that are in no way a “stupid mistake”.
6 years for voting when it’s also claimed to be a democratic right is insane. USA is a very dysfunctional democracy. Starting with first past the post, which is to blame for the undemocratic 2 party system.
Preventing people in conflict with the law from voting, is an obvious undemocratic and oppressive policy too. Like saying you can only vote if you agree.
When you abuse the system to cheat at voting (as multiple GOP folks have been proven in court), I think it’s completely fair and correct to temporarily restrict your ability to participate. You’ve shown that you don’t treat it with the proper degree of responsibility.
The 6 years was for voting when the person believed he could. But it was punished harshly to oppress and create fear among black voters.
The White guy knowingly committed voter fraud, and only got probation.Yes it would be fair in the 2nd case to issue punishment for voter fraud, but not in the first, since the unfairness clearly is that the person was prevented in performing his democratic right. Except USA is only barely a democracy, and democratic rights are trampled routinely.
If it was democratic right, major elections would be a national holiday
People in positions of power or authority should be held to a higher standard, not an equal or lower one. He should get the book thrown at him and several years to think about why fucking with the elections is a bad idea.
Haha - oh no, no. No, there are certain . . mmmmm nuances that distinguish that case from this case. Hahaha. You know these cases, they’re- they’re complex, right . . . it’s not just BLACK or WHITE, right? Haha right Texas?! Hahaha - yeah . . Texas gets it.
This just in, one of these was (finally) acquitted in appeals court, there has to be evidence they knew they weren’t eligible (and being told you’re eligible is pretty strong evidence to the contrary)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/28/crystal-mason-texas-woman-acquitted
Every accusation is a confession. Every single one. No exceptions.
At least when a Republican makes the accusation
Yup. Always. They can’t see that everyone doesn’t think and act like them.
I guess deflecting/projecting is a common manipulation technique that slimebags learn.
Lol this might actually be the biggest overstatement I’ve ever seen stated plainly on the internet
Not at all. The modern GOP is built on astounding levels of projection about their issues, their behavior, and their secrets.
If someone’s ranting about voter fraud, it’s probably someone like the guy in this article who committed a lot of it.
If someone’s ranting about how horrible taxes are, it’s probably someone who happily takes government handouts without a hint of shame or hypocrisy awareness.
If someone’s ranting about the temptations of gay sex, his name’s probably Larry “Wide Stance” Craig.
Seriously, every accusation they make is a confession. No exceptions.
Lol goddamn “every accusation is a confession, no exceptions” is seriously the most braindead, brainwashed take. I mean, fuck, just say “often these accusations are confessions” and you won’t sound so hyperbolic and your statements would ring true. Leaving ZERO room for nuance is just such a bad take, man.
So literally every anti-gay Republican is a closeted homosexual. Not a SINGLE one is just a rabid Christian, or just a bigot. Right? Lol jesus christ
Way to miss the point. Sometimes the confession is just that they’re a raging bigot. Sometimes it’s just a confession of ignorance.
But try to find an accusation leveled by a prominent Republican against Democrats, liberals, progressives, or anyone else they hate that didn’t turn out to be a confession in the last 20 years.
The assholes pushing bullshit about Biden “bribes” were actually just confessing to being easy marks for Russian intelligence. The assholes pushing birtherism were just admitting to being disgusting racists. The assholes calling LGBTQ+ people “groomers” keep getting caught with CSAM.
My point is that while there is nuance to the nature of the hypocrisy and the projection, the bullshit accusations Republicans have been vomiting at everyone they hate for decades keep turning out ironically. To the point that when you hear Republicans use their mouths to shit something out about their hate-targets, you can rest assured that there’s something similarly ironic driving it.
Brainwashed take. Absolutely brainwashed. You’re also completely changing your argument. Im sure I could find a repub accusation that could be taken wholly at face value, and you’d say it was a confession of something else altogether.
How about the Republicans that tanked their careers to break with Trump’s big lie? You think John McCain only spoke out of the sides of his mouth?
Life isnt black and white. Some conservstive would say the same about Dems, and they’d be just as wrong and brainwashed as you are. Bye forever.
Meh. You have no rejoinders to any of my specific examples, so you resort to insults and non sequiturs about things that weren’t accusations in the first place.
If a Republican behaves like John McCain, who didn’t debase himself by hurling stupid accusations at his political opponents, why would you assume I’m lumping that sort of person in with the bullshit-accusations crowd?
I said every accusation is a confession. How the actual fuck do you apply that to someone who isn’t throwing around bullshit accusations in the first place?
Fuck outta here with that illogical claptrap. Goodbye forever? Great. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Here you go, you brainwashed chucklefuck. You think I couldn’t Google every single senator and find accusations levied that aren’t a confession? Now tell me exactly how these are exceptions to your “nO eXcEpTiOnS” braindead take. Literally took 3 seconds to look these up, and you think not a single example exists across the entire political spectrum.
I also note that you didn’t respond to my example of politicians that broke with trump and levied accusations at him, at the cost of their career. NO EXCEPTIONS DERRRR
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/john-mccain-rand-paul-rule-19-vladimir-putin/index.html
https://time.com/5130826/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-fbi/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna388036
For the record, I fully expect you to walk this back and tell me how “WELL THESE ARENT THE ACCUSATIONS I MEANT, I MEANT SPECIFICALLY [X]” even though you literally left no room for interpretation, nuance, or exceptions. Which was my exact point, which you clearly do not understand, through the reddit-induced brainwashed fog
“We cheated so hard and still lost! They had to have stolen it!”
All of these illegal votes happened before 2011. So your quote doesn’t make any sense.
It’s always projection.
“I KNOW there’s fraud because I did it myself!”
That’s what makes me nervous about Pizzagate
Fortunately, that seems to just be an outcropping of blood libel conspiracism.
I kinda figure that was Epstein.
VOTEFRAAAAAAUD!!!
*commits massive vote fraud*
Projectionconfession - we need a new compound word just for them
A republican projecting their own unethical behavior?? Surely this is an isolated incident.
Shocked, I tell you! Never saw it coming!!
What next? Republicans raping kids or smth?
Next? You implying it hasn’t happened?
I think it was sarcasm.
I guess next news
I understand his thought process: “i voted nine times and they still won, either I suck very hard or they voted more times than me” Sorry mate, reality is hard
Fuck these people.
I wonder whether he believed the lie that the election was rigged. If he justified it to himself by saying “well, the other side is doing it.” Horrific.
Edit: I made a false assumption that this was 9 votes in the same election, where it was actually 9 different instances where he would have been allowed to vote, were it not for prior conviction. See the comment below (or the article- my bad) for clarification.
Edit 2: removed the piece in my edit about probation, it wasn’t applicable.
RFTA. It’s so short, FFS.
He didn’t vote 9 times in the 2020 election (or since then). He was on probation in PA for a felony and couldn’t legally vote in GA, but did anyway. I would assume in 9 different elections. He claims he thought it was legal for him to do so. Had he not been on probation in PA, all his votes would have been legal. (In fact, I believe he should have been able to vote, as I don’t think being convicted of a crime should remove this fundamental right. But that’s kind of besides the point here)
He broke the law and should be punished for it, especially for being one who claims that the people were voting illegally, but even guessing that he was doing this because he thought the 2020 election was stolen makes absolutely zero sense, because the bulk of these times (if not all of them) happened before then.
Thank you for the correction. I’ll edit my comment.
NP, thanks for being nice about it despite me being a cock.
That being said, all of the voting happened before 2011 even, when the probation was actually up.
Ack, even after reading the article I misunderstood. So it would have been legal in one state but was illegal where he actually voted. That’s complicated.
And I don’t mind being corrected! It helps me learn. I hope you have a wonderful day.
To be honest, the headline is really misleading. Yes, people should definitely RTFA, but not everyone has the time to do that and a headline should be specific enough to avoid spreading misinformation.
The title is never going to be specific enough to remove all ability to misinterpret it. The title just tells you what the article is about. The article itself gives you all the necessary details. I agree that it shouldn’t be misleading, and in the case I think it could be improved, but that doesn’t change the fact that one should refrain from passing judgment about what happened based on a headline. If you don’t have the time to read the article, you also lack the time to form an valid opinion about what happened.
Sure, I agree, but unfortunately the human mind is prone to jumping to conclusions, especially when they fit their narrative. One should always be sure of what happened before forming an opinion on it, but sometimes you “get the feeling you’re sure” even when you don’t have all the necessary information.
Just look at how widespread the “Biden doesn’t know the alphabet” thing got when the original was very clearly satire.
I understand that confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. But we are talking about just making sure you are even just mildly informed before forming an opinion you think is valid.
The thing is, a lot of times people think they’re informed enough even when they aren’t. There isn’t a clear indicator of “how informed” you are on any subject, and self-assessment is a faulty thing. The Dunning-Kruger effect probably plays a part in that too.
This is the basis for InfoWars: read a headline, make up a story to fit it
A lot of countries where the whole ID systems are a bit shaky use this system where a finger is dipped in dye once you’ve voted. Some US states should implement that.
(Does not apply in this case, though, as at it was pointed out to me, the issue is that he was in jail or something and thus couldn’t vote. Unlike most countries where people in jails/prisons can vote as they are still people)
He didn’t actually vote 9 times in one election. Voting twice in an election is insanely rare. A bigger issue is votes being miscounted, which accounts for much larger discrepancies than illegal voting. Not that it’s a huge discrepancy, just that illegal voting is so rare
Oh, right, it’s about that weird US thing that people that have been jailed shouldn’t vote.
Because if you’re starving and grab stuff for your children that you can afford, then you shouldn’t vote. It just makes sense, a responsible person should just drown their children to balance their budget.
Wait, then they couldn’t vote either. Curse you voting authority, it’s like you don’t want some people to vote at all!
It’s only felons who can’t vote. Grabbing some food for your kids would likely be a misdemeanor, which means you could still vote.
Is that true in all states?
I just checked and in my home state of PA, convicted felons only lose their right to vote when they’re in prison. If they’re on parole or probation they’re allowed to vote. People convicted of a misdemeanor can vote from jail.
So I guess it varies a lot more than I thought.
I’m not in the US, but like a lot of the world, I’ve been watching it from afar from quite awhile. And to us it’s both a somewhat familiar and a very strange place. Some of us go there sometimes (I did, several times). It doesn’t really change that initial impression (it didn’t for me at least). To clarify, it doesn’t mean I didn’t like the US. I found it very interesting, I loved the nature (because it’s so empty). But the culture is…
You know those Twilight Zone kind of shows where you think you’re in the same dimension, but you’re actually not? And the longer you stay the weirder and more menacing it gets? That’s the US when you’re from Europe. With the weird religious people popping up all over the place, you noticing all the weird food stuff, all the weird legal stuff, and it goes on and on and on. But there are still Europe folks that go for the so called American Dream. So maybe it’s just me.
Anyway this voting thing is an example of the weirdness of the US to the rest of us (it’s at least true for Europe, but it also works for many more places, as long as you don’t run into dictatorships).
You know those Twilight Zone kind of shows where you think you’re in the same dimension, but you’re actually not? And the longer you stay the weirder and more menacing it gets? That’s the US when you’re from Europe.
It’s like that from the inside, too.
I love your interpretation of the US. Trust me, a lot of us that are from here feel the same way driving through those types of states 🤣
The religious loony spots are mocked if you’re not from those small towns. Hell, even most kids that are from those towns talk crap about them!
Of all the Republican faces…
he looks like he smells of deli meat
Deli meat and old cigarette smell, like what sticks to old tech that hasnt been near a cigarette for over a decade but it still lingers.
Looks like he doesn’t wash his asshole because it feels too good to him and he’s supposed to fight those feelings.
It’s always projection with them. No exceptions.
No way
Lock this mother fucker up!!!
How can it even be possible to vote illegally once let alone so many times. Id be whinning about it too!
Maybe because asking for identification is communism?
(I don’t know how voting works over there, just guessing)
This wasn’t a case that ID would fix. He registered illegally and voted under his own name. It wasn’t caught because government information is not shared very well between agencies in the US. Rather than the election officials actually checking, he had to sign a sworn declaration that he was legally allowed to vote as part of his registration, and lying in that sworn declaration is one of the things he was also charged with in this case.
“It’s not a case that ID would fix because the whole system is so broken that it doesn’t make any difference”
That’s what I read.
I’m glad that you can focus on such small issues. Other countries have functioning voting systems.
You seem to be under a misconception that explaining what happened is condoning something. Your snarkasm would be better directed elsewhere.
I would maybe argue with you if I had the faintest idea of what you were going on about.
That’s pretty much exactly how I feel. You said you didn’t understand something, so I went and looked it up and explained what I found. Then you started coming at me as if I were defending the guy. I’m not here for that knee jerk reaction. I swear, idk why I even talk to humans anymore.
Um, ok.
Letting criminals swear that they are not going to do something illegal sounds like an extremely naive approach to this problem
The sworn statement is there so that when they get caught it is very easy to prosecute them as you can show they put their signature to a false statement.
Their credibility is destroyed.
