I was using reddit less and less, but when the furry subreddits made their way into /r/popular and /r/all that was it for toilet browsing/squat’n’surfing… Seeing a sign for ‘werewolf breeding zone’ was enough for me.
I now have the mental image of Spez frantically struggling to explain to advertisers why their posts were appearing besides werewolf breeding zone memes. So thanks for that.
I’ve never cared for furry stuff, but hell, I probably would’ve stayed if I’d gotten anything nearly as hilarious as “werewolf breeding zone” instead of all the religious and techbro crap I was getting through their ads.
Yes! What was up with that Jesus ad, ad nauseum? Weird and also just boring.
Apparently even the omniscient and omnipotent don’t know who their followers are and have to advertise to find them.
But he GETS us, yknow??? vomit
I’ve been wondering that too, since I found the campaign to pester my kids constantly. Tried to clean their browser history and change the algorithm but it keeps popping up.
Basically it’s a disgusting attempt to brainwash kids.
From Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Gets_Us
The campaign primarily targets younger demographics and religious skeptics
He Gets Us has faced criticism over the extensive spending by the campaign, its donors’ support of anti-abortion and anti-LGBT groups, and disputes over claims that the campaign is apolitical.
most of the individual donors who provided the money have chosen to remain anonymous.
Maybe ‘he gets us’ is not the best thing for religions to be saying to kids considering all the sexual abuse scandals…
Dropped Reddit due the API changes and dumsterfire after that with the CEO. I get they need to make money, but this was simply aimed at taking down third party apps and services.
I really hope this place will grow.
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I should check mine. I deleted everything (that I had patience and time for) that had a lot of upvotes.
I wish I had left some of the helpful stuff that I deleted because I still find myself getting led to Reddit when searching for phone related fixes.
That’s my dilemma too - on the one hand, I want to delete my stuff (not that much of it is worth anything anyway), because fuck the way Reddit has acted and will monetise it.
On the other hand, if anything I ever posted was good/useful/helpful/amusing to other people, then I don’t want to remove that just for the sake of spiting Spez.
Haven’t been back to Reddit since the blackout, except once when I accidentally clicked a google search result to a post there (illustrating my point about potentially helping other people). Don’t really miss it either. Lemmy is great, and I’m glad to see that so far it has lasted beyond the initial rush.
You can still delete manually. I sorted my comments by top and edited them to gibberish.
Some people have mentioned their posts being reverted back after those kind of edits.
Man, it’s a damned good thing my posts and comments never add any value to the conversation.
Seriously though, while I haven’t deleted my account yet, in the hope that maybe thing could shift, if/when I do I would like to remove my content.
Is there a known way to remove posts and comments from reddit? I guess they can always just restore from backups. Maybe instead of replacing with “.” or gibberish, making a simple copy pasta to replace them with so it isn’t so obvious.
The worst thing about it is that they could have accomplished all their goals if they didn’t shove it on people with a months notice and then Spaz going on a media tour shitting on mods and users
If they just made third party apps a premium feature, they would have seen a much smaller revolt and a significant increase in the number of premium subscribers. Seems like that would have been the obvious approach.
Exactly this. Most people would have caved if they had given a 1yr update period and spez had kept his mouth shut. This move screams of a knee jerk reaction to try bd suddenly raise the profit margins, and spez had no idea how the users would revolt.
I think they really expected the 1 month timeline to blow over too
This is what gets me. Christian Selig pointed out in a number of interviews that Reddit could have easily made this work without alienating a huge segment of their user base. I get this vague feeling lately like CEOs are intentionally trying to tank their products, because no one so well paid could actually act so dumb.
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I think he was blinded by the thought of money. When the media reported that ChatGPT trained it’s models using Reddit comments, he flipped out and rushed to slam the gates shut immediately, while telling investors he had potentially billions of dollars worth of data to sell. When he found out that Apollo app and others sell subscriptions, it’s clear from his comments that he got angry and called them all parasites. He wants to be the gatekeeper of Reddit and become a billionaire with it, but his actions fundamentally misunderstand Reddit and will trigger a mass exodus. The content creators are leaving, and while Reddit will still get traffic the content will become stale and it will be another 9gag.
It’s people like Spez and Elon who would be the first to die off in a post-apocalyptic scenario. Their “Smarts” won’t do shit if they don’t know how to survive. Not to mention high profile people will likely be the first on the chopping blocks.
Also being “smart” in an apocalypse likely means building allies and connections. Which can only happen if people can trust your word and don’t think you’re a dick. Something that describes neither of them.
Truth is CEOs do dumb shit all the time because most of them are not the “genius” worth all that pay everyone seems to think.
Of course there are many that are worth the pallets of cash they make but it drives all the mid tier to junk CEO compensation up.
Agreed. I just can’t figure out the reason(s) they’re doing it though.
Borrowing money isn’t cheap any more. The venture capital’s that have been propping up these platforms have decided the risk is now too high, and they’re trying to extract as much of their investment as they can, by any means necessary. I think the venture capitalists see a major recession in or near future, and our battening down the hatches.
Like, I’m nowhere near this stupid. I’ll run your company better for half what he’s paid
I’m absolutely convinced I could do a better job. He’s a fool
I really like Lemmy better than new reddit because scrolling the front page reminds me of 2010-2016 Reddit. I hated when they added ADS and removed the NSFW subs from the front page. Everything about NEW Reddit sucked.
Lemmy fixed new reddit and I ain’t going back.
That’s what the 3rd party apps did best: didn’t show ads, let me filter posts with keywords in their titles, and let me use /r/frontpage as my default (NSFW posts show in that feed)
I think Lemmy will, just give it time.
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Is that right? I was under the impression majority opened back up.
Tbh I don’t really care either way, I haven’t been on reddit for 3 weeks now.
Something I’d like to share:
I’ve been periodically checking reddit in my Browser to see what’s going on. I commented last week about noticing a sharp decrease in posts on “my” front page. Since then I’ve observed a few more interesting things.
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Late last week, I noticed that multiple subreddits (BORU and PICS in particular) had like 2-4 posts when sorted by “top, 24 hours.” It wasn’t a case of having to click “next” (I really miss rifs endless scrolling feature…) to navigate to a second page of posts; there was no 2nd page. That was it.
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I also noticed that on the mobile website, ads are designed to look nearly identical to posts (imo it was more obvious that they were ads on rif), and most of the time the website would only have 1 or 2 posts before one of these fake ad posts, so your user experience is immediately impacted.
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The ads don’t seem to be as targeted as they used to be. I used to get ads that seemed to be geared toward me, my searches, and interests. Creepy, but I found it way less annoying than the alternative. Which is apparently a lot of “He Gets Us” and ads for complicated electronics or unnecessary services. Like a mobile vet clinic that isn’t even available in my area, lol.
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The bot posts are getting obvious and WEIRD. I took screenshots last weekend because just about every other post had a robotic, overly formal, and/or downright confusing title. Here are some examples:
56.3k, front page: “A brain tumour changed her life Her nerves are badly damaged! But today she opened a car door…walked…opened a gym door…walked and sat down …BY HERSELF what a lady”
[Quotation marks, format, and ellipses are original]
40.5k, front page: The trapped dog doesn’t wait a bit to hug the rescuer after being freed…
Same weird ellipses, and the way it’s phrased is like a “correct the mistakes” worksheet for 2nd graders.
I think Reddit is in the “find out” stage of their fucking around, even if it’s a quiet or subtle change to the casual observer.
I also tried going to ModCoord [I’m not a mod it just felt like a good place to find updates] and, on my end, it looks like almost everything has been deleted. The same day I took screenshots, /r/PICS posted a public response to reddit’s threats, which weren’t even acknowledged on modcoord. The most recent post I could see was something from GallowBoob? It was really odd.
Is the website being glitchy? Probably. That is, after all, part of the root of this problem. But if anything, I’d say it’s pretty clear that the content has decreased in both quality and depth in the last 10 days. Even if a lot of users are still signing in, I don’t think they’re posting, commenting, or voting as much as they used to. That may be a reflection of the quality of posts, or of users displeasure at the situation, but regardless of where it came from, at least it’s something.
One sub I’m quite a lurker on has 6 million subscribers, and top posts for the day had like 1.5k upvotes, and there was a massive shortage of new/interesting posts.
The change in reddit over the last few weeks has been dramatic.
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Dropped Reddit a month ago after 12 years of daily use and while it was tough in the initial days Lemmy/Kbin activity has really picked up and is beginning to absolutely fill the gap. Just need the apps and a bit more stability and think it’s going to be a proper successor.
Same, a little bit of added qol to Memmy as well as some content on some of the more niche communities I used to frequent and Reddit will be solely used for searching obscure problems in the future if even that.
I think a big help will be creating a streamlined sign-up process in the apps themselves. Menus to pick a server and create an account. Maybe tell the user which servers are biggest/ask if they wanna browse servers by specific content leanings. That way it’s not intimidating. I’m a tech guy and even I was a bit perplexed in the beginning and that will keep anyone with a non-technical background away: we tech nerds forget that things not “just working” isn’t a feature in the eyes of a majority of people. (For better or for worse.)
I have been using Kbin exclusively while waiting for the Artemis app to be released but I decided to Memmy for Lemmy to see what the hype was all about. Well I’m loving Memmy, it does exactly what you discussed. The app makes it super easy choose an instance and create an account. Does the app need some work? Yes but it’s leaps and bounds better than browsing through a mobile web browser.
I use both Memmy as its based off of Apollo but there’s also wefwef you might want to check out but I like Memmy more
Same here.
There are a few (very few) communities I am still waiting to become active and useful here but Reddit has been moved to page 4 or my social media folder and I rarely ever scroll to it.
Good riddance too. The move to Lemmy/Kbin also pushed me back onto Mastodon and I could not be happier.
Is there a 101 for dummies about lemmy/kbin/mastodon? I dont know what any of those words mean
Edit: just realized kbin isnt on there. Kbin is another Lemmy-affiliated site, but it also lets you see mastodon posts. You need a seperate kbin login to use it, but the site looks similar and behaves similarly to any Lemmy instance.
Yeah I spent 2 weeks on Jerboa unable to post, comment, subscribed etc because the instance I joined was not yet a login option on the app. Still have that issue with every other app.
You can tell the devs are working hard on these apps though. It’s a race to get a polished app released before people lose interest in leaving reddit.
Indeed. I’ve seen the rate of app updates pick up recently, and I feel it’s noticeably smoother than a couple weeks ago. Great effort is being done and I’m grateful towards the devs for that.
Liftoff has been pretty good for me. Might be worth exploring.
I look forward to talking about my first few weeks on Lemmy in years to come: “Back then I had to use an app that was in alpha and wait ten minutes to load a page full of bean memes! And then we got hacked!”
Just in case you don’t already know: On most apps you can type in your instance instead of selecting one from the drop down menu. Im on a small instance too and it took me a week or so to figure it out last month lol
When the protest started I poked around the Fediverse and it was a ghost town and was a little concerned that Reddit might not have any competition. But since the end of June posts and content have been going way up, and the quality of the posts is way better than Reddit, even before spez fucked things up.
Yeah I think a lot of people were skeptical if Reddit would actually follow through initially… I know I was. I thought they would back pedal, but realized shortly after Spez’s disastrous AMA that wasn’t gonna happen. Someone else mentioned Lemmy in a different thread and that’s how I first heard of it. After some research to learn about the fediverse and ActivityPub, badda-bing, badda-boom, I’m here and haven’t looked back.
/r/heat was a big loss for me. But /c/nba is actually nice, since everyone has been respectful. I avoided /r/nba since everyone was so hostile to each other and it contributed so much to me hating most fanbases.
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The pending is apparently a bug and still see the feed as though you are subscribed.
There one sub I still frequent is r/SFFPC since it doesn’t seem like they’ve really made the switch. For all else I’ve been kicking it here on Lemmy.
Have barely been on there since it started besides to visit subs that havent even attempted to move yet, from what I have heard Reddit is definitely worse now with how many people have left, is that everyone elses perspective as well.
That’s right. There’s been a downward trend with the quality of content, especially on the tech front. What’s seemingly unaffected are location-based subs.
some subs are still lively. To be expected, however Lemmy has proven a viable alternative with enough activity to keep me sated, and it’s clearly still growing. Every day a new community pops up that reflects a counterpart on Reddit and the remaining niches are quickly being filled right here.
The UFC and MMA subs haven’t moved yet despite there being a few communities on lemmy. I still go to reddit for those.
Lack of care by sports fans is the least surprising. It is after all a group that still pays for cable and puts up with ads after all. They are very addicted to the product.
It’s the gaming and pc subs that I ended up disappointed by, but then those communities ended up having good growth here without need for Reddit mods pushing migration.
Do you know of any Lemmy communities that post gaming clips? I see a ton about gaming discussions and gaming news but none with gameplay.
Game discussions and news was all I followed back on reddit, so hadn’t searched out gameplay clip focused ones. So unaware if that exists on lemmy.
I’m sure those will comes in time too I guess
And those communities haven’t a fraction of the drama and hostility. Mainly because they’re small and new, but that’s why you move to a new site, anyways.
I think the giant default subs are the same but I’ve definitely noticed less activity on my smaller niche interest subs (the whole point of reddit for me) since the apps shut down.
I was under the impression not much had changed because a small minority used 3rd party apps tbh.
It’s not just how many left, it’s who left.
Traffic impacts will be clearer in coming months. But in my view, the amount of noise is higher.
Looking at the popular posts and even my front page, the quality has subjectively gone down. Small subs are virtually the same, but that’s not where Reddit wants to make their money.
I have found that it is actually the small subs that are the most important. The big subs were very easily replaced as it was easy to build a new community from scratch. It’s the small ones that are difficult, and also the ones that pop up in search engines the most.
So many used the excuse to not participate or reopen with the explanation of we are too small to matter, but it is because the community is small to begin with that it is the ones that has the biggest pull back to reddit. Like for example if you search how to play taiko no tatsujin on pc it’s many hits of reddit that just pop up. Especially if you are looking for how to set up custom songs.
Agreed. The large subs content you can get anywhere. News, memes, made up stories, random questions with the same set of answer. Sure once you are already on reddit you might aswell consume it there for convenience, but that isn’t that special.
The small niche subs are what makes it unique. There is a reason why many people have come to add “reddit” to their google searches to find solutions to their problems.
Yeah, I had already unsubscribed from all the default subs long ago. That starts making me curious what type of subs long time reddit users who ended up leaving had avoided themselves and how long their list of filters blocking subs from showing up on /r/all were.
I can’t speak for others, but I literally never looked at r/all. I went directly to specific subs, mostly small and/or specialized. I had been on the site for something like ten years, and while I wasn’t online every day, when I was online, I was talking to people rather than lurking. For me, the whole reason I had to leave is that I went there to engage, and now that the company has made the “business decision “ to become a shithole, I no longer want to engage. So I have taken my 100% of my engagement here. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a link between being an active participant and feeling upset enough to leave. If I had been a lurker, it wouldn’t have mattered as much to me that I no longer feel comfortable contributing to spez’s data hoard.
[edit: also, as someone who was there as much to connect with cool people as I was to talk about particular topics, I am not missing specific subs nearly as much as I expected. I am getting more or less the same emotional payoff here as I did from Reddit at its best.]
Speed at which some communities have grown over few weeks has been pretty impressive that some of the subs that never migrated I’m not missing anymore. Of course there are a few that doesn’t have much people or any activity, but it’s been better than I expected.
Vocal minority though, surely?
I’ve visited a few times on Desktop (old.reddit) since the shutdown and the rate of new content seems to have slowed down quite drastically.Twitter metrics used to point to 90% of the content coming from 10% of the users.
If Reddit is similar, it makes sense to assume that many of the very active users were on 3rd party apps (to improve the basic experience, moderation etc.) so those being unavailable could put them off entirely (I know I’m using Reddit a fraction of what I once was).I believe the rule of thumb is the 90:9:1 ratio:
- 1% of users create original content
- 9% of users interact with that content - voting/commenting on it, sharing it, etc.
- 90% of users are essentially just in read-only mode
Not that I don’t believe you, but do you have a source about that? Quite literally for the sake of my curiosity/further reading
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
Seems like in 2014, a peer-reviewed study confirmed that it’s pretty close to accurate:
A 2014 peer-reviewed paper entitled “The 1% Rule in Four Digital Health Social Networks: An Observational Study” empirically examined the 1% rule in health-oriented online forums. The paper concluded that the 1% rule was consistent across the four support groups, with a handful of “Superusers” generating the vast majority of content.[6] A study later that year, from a separate group of researchers, replicated the 2014 van Mierlo study in an online forum for depression.[7] Results indicated that the distribution frequency of the 1% rule fit followed Zipf’s Law, which is a specific type of power law.
There’s a Wikipedia page about it with all sorts of links to rabbit holes you can go down!
Oh wow thanks for the reply! I’ve never read about this topic at all so this will definitely be fun to tumble down
I hadn’t heard that stag from Twitter, but I really do hope that is how it is on reddit and that the content generating users have begin making the switch. Sadly, I think some of reddit recent rise in popularity attracted some folks there only for views so they’ll probably stay. Hopefully their content isn’t much to miss.
I’ve a feeling you’re not wrong about attracting users who’re solely after notoriety, though I’ve a feeling it’ll only further water down meaningful content and discussion on the platform as that no longer necessarily brings with it much in the way of karma
Indeed. Not many people hopped ship, but those who did were disproportionately power users, mods, and other content generators. Because of that, I’ve heard that Reddit content generation has somewhat slowed.
Trying to switch fully over to Lemmy, but missing some subs yet and still logging in there to Reddit sometimes :( but Im not producing any content there and will never come back to do so.
Haven’t been on since I created my Kbin account a few weeks ago. I really just miss my smaller subs like interior and home decorating, houseporn, and the plant subs. at least the houseplant and gardening communities on here are getting some steam. Oh well, I’ll live without for now 🤷♀️.
The nice thing about smaller communities is that it’s more like going to the pub than speed-dating; there’s an increasingly familiar regular crowd that feels like community, rather than a focus on quick content, hoping for a spark of interest.
browsing in new I have seen a !houseplants but I’m not sure which instance it was on. It would be nice to see cozyplaces or something like it though.
I think houseplants is on mander.xyz
Yeah I’ve subscribed to a couple of the ones I’ve found. I’ll check out that one too, thanks :)
Yeah cozyplaces was another one I enjoyed too, hopefully we can bring it here haha
We are gardeners, we go where the sun is, and we shall plant our seeds!
squabbles.io/s/cozyplaces squabbles.io/s/houseplants l’ve found lemmy/kbin combined with squabbles has covered lot of things. Lemmy has been better for nerdy stuff, and squabbles for more casual memes, gifs, and pics. There’s random stuff like squabbles.io/s/castiron
Edit : squabbles.io/s/gardening for more plant stuff.
I’ve liked squabbles.io/s/dim-lit-aesthetics
I’ll give squabbles another look, I didn’t really like it when I was looking for a new place but that was like a month ago, might be a place where I browse a couple places. Thanks for the tip!
I like squabbles because it tends to be simpler, less technical than here. They need more users but the combination of the two sites is scratching the Reddit itch.
Yeah it’s nice seeing the different places making an effort to grow the community despite their size. Both places have been very welcoming and have good vibes.
Without Apollo on my iPhone and Sync on my android, I’m not using Reddit. Lemmy filled that void. The only thing missing are niche communities. That will come with time.
I’ve stopped using Reddit almost completely. I’m checking on the one subreddit I built from the ground up about once a week (1K to 50K, a lot of CSS and automod work, etc), and I’m trying to pass off my other subreddits to other people. At least one is just going to go totally unmoderated, and the one I’m keeping is going to be a lot more restrictive.
I visit it for a couple of subs that are not active on here. For the most part it feels the same. I never really cared for the karma system, gold, etc. So switching to Lemmy for me was more about just trying to find a place not being bombarded by ads, bots, and corporate policies.
I think reddit will survive the Exodus of users simply because Twitter is so badly managed that reddit may actually supplant it for a while. However, the drive to monetize all aspects of our lives is actually getting some push back from users so Lemmy may continue to grow in the next few years.
The biggest issues facing Lemmy isn’t content though. It’s ease of adoption.
God yes the ads, I just hate how every corner of our existence is being filled with ads. And if it’s not an official ad or “sponsored post” it’s someone trying to sell stickers on their Etsy or a t shirt bot spamming all and every subreddit. I just really hope those sort of things don’t invade here.
Yeah this is what has amazed me since joining Lemmy is the non existence of ADS. It feels weird that I’m not seeing constant ads disguised as posts here.
I have been bouncing between here and the Reddit official app and holy hell the Reddit app is so shockingly bad with ads that I can only manage a few mins on it.
If you have been using an adblocker for years and turn it off for a moment, you really see how fucking bad it has become. It’s almost like a dystopian movie.
I use DNS black holes, adblockers, and I host all of my own media content. I rarely, if ever, see ads.
I will just stop viewing content if I have to go back to watching ads, it’s that simple. I can’t do it.
I can’t even watch TV with my parents on the Tivo anymore. Even fast forwarding through the ads is tedious and makes me angry.
Same. I consider anything I pay for adblock services an investment in my health.
An advertisment filled dystopian movie? That’s the exact opposite of my new movie, “Barbie”, only in theaters July 21st.
What, no product placement, even? But how will I know what kind of flavored seltzer will make me pretty if I don’t see what Barbie drinks?!
It’s going to be Barbie-que sauce flavored.
…well played, lol. Although now I’m imagining liquid smoke flavor in a cold beverage, and I feel extremely conflicted about it.
It tastes like Worcestershire sauce, so tamarind and anchovies.
But if you use an adbwockew then I can’t suwvive…
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But is ease of adoption a problem, though?
Lemmy as it is now is great. Sure it could have more users, but I wouldn’t want the “average user” here because then it will be Reddit BS all over again.
I’m not saying I want or support that. I actually found it very easy to adopt. I am saying it is a hurdle in regards to adoption in regards to platform growth which is often discussed when comparing it to other social platforms.
Yes, it’s a huge problem. New users are confused when they first get introduced. Ive been here for weeks and I still don’t understand everything. The explanations and infographics that have been made are a mess. It’s why there’s a certain kind of user that makes up the bulk of the site right now.
Doesn’t help that the first attempts to explain it were basically denial that there was a problem and insulting people for not understanding.
As a non-tech-savvy person, the confusion is real, lol. I am okay with just not really knowing what’s going on, and with asking questions or RTFM when I can find it, but that still puts me in the category of “comfortable in a highly technical environment.” People who are genuinely uncomfortable with technology and tech people are going to get a lot of culture shock.
To be fair, I think it goes both ways. People who answer a question from the point of view of a software developer will, quite reasonably, feel hurt if they’re told their answer isn’t helpful. I think it might be good to have a dedicated “landing pad” community for helping new people get oriented, rather than leaving them to ask the nearest person, who might or might not be the best person to ask.
But why is it a huge problem in the context of adoption?
Yeah as bad as it may sound, I kind of like that it’s not as easy to get into as reddit’s official app or tiktok or whatever. A barrier to entry can help quality. It doesn’t stop all the toxic assholes but it helps slow down the onslaught of braindead echo chambers and circlejerks that reddit has turned.
Haven’t even had the urge to go back. Scroll trolls don’t care. I know a dude that doom scrolls antiwork to feel better about his life. Like, damn. He def makes enough for therapy and the gym.
lol I feel called out.
Fuck, me too. I got a gym membership (I’ve gone once), just need to find a therapist now.
We need Personal Trainers that also moonlight as therapists. Go to get therapy and workout at the same time.
I think it’s all had a bigger impact on Lemmy than it has had on Reddit. The lasting impact might be that Reddit now has viable competition for the first time since Digg, which is a good thing.
*pre-2010 Digg
Digg after that was no longer competition. It was an ad-riddled trash-fire which drove a massive number of its users away to places like reddit… including myself… who just kinda did something similar with reddit.
I went to Reddit from Digg during the great migration and I didn’t look back. The Ads and format change were a huge misstep on their part. I honestly would have left Reddit when they went to New Reddit if we would have had Lemmy back then.
Same. In fact I tried to find alternatives but there just wasn’t one at the time.
Old reddit still exists
Yes but evenso site wide changes still affected old reddit. NSFW subs were still removed from r/all and the sponsored content was still there too. Not to mention all the bots and spam. I was also primarily a mobile user so killing Apollo was the end for me.
For now, yes. As clueless and inept as Spez has been about this whole thing, it’s only a matter of time until old.reddit gets nuked.
They already tried nuking i.reddit a few months ago.
There’s a workaround, you can append
.ito the end of a URL and it works, but still, shame to see the lightest weight reddit interface disappear
when they went to New Reddit
I never went to New Reddit…
I would have left even if Lemmy didn’t exist.
Yeah, I jumped ship without a plan. After a couple days I remembered I had heard about Lemmy in one of the “What are you going to do on July 1st” posts.
Am so happy with the results that I honestly no longer care what happens to reddit, I prefer this.
Smaller? Sure, but it’ll grow. Even if it tops out at current user base I wouldn’t see that as a bad thing.
I know it never left for PC and I used it over there but I was mostly a mobile user and killing Apollo destroyed my desire for reddit.
I was also not a fan of some of the changes that affected everything like removing NSFW from r/all.
While I see many comments regarding the Reddit changes, unfortunately I am not seeing much discussion in any other posts yet.
Yeah. They do not realize that despite “their traffic being back to normal” they destroyed their monopoly status. It’s a slow rot. But a rot that will kill their value eventually. And I am here for it.
On the bright side for them, they still have a commercial monopoly. The number of ads might go up while the quality of the content goes down.
Inertia will keep a train going for a while, as the engine dies.
The people that are now on lemmy were the heaviest users. The ones that bought 5 different apps to improve their experience and figure out which one they preferred : the mods, the creators, etc.
Have they all left Reddit completely? Probably not, but now they split their time. And stats say the proportion on Lemmy is increasing.
We now have an opportunity not only replace but contribute in the creation of something new - new mechanics, new rules and more.
Reddit is tired and has been for a while, Lemmy developers are building the Reddit they always wanted, and are innovating at breakneck speed.
Simple things like Top by 1, 6, 12 hours which we now have here, was badly needed in Reddit but they were too busy trying to shoehorn video and flairs.
I’m kind of starting to feel like that actually may be what reddit wants - because the tech savy people using third-party apps are also probably just ad-blocking, and it’s usually a niche content that will never be massively consumed. Compare that to the junk at instagram or TikTok, that doesn’t require any kind of effort to interact with, and compare how many users such platforms have.
I think Reddit would be pretty happy with their content turning into TikTok junk for the masses, and their userbase changing into consumers of that content. Just because there’s just a lot more of people who consume such content, and who are used to companies milking them for profit and bombarding them with ads, because they just don’t care.
EDIT: And by driving away the “nerds” who moderated and kept a higher standart of content, which in turn turned away the users looking for more easily consumable content, they may get just that. The teens who probably heard about Reddit being the place where cool nerds hang out and tried to get into it, only to be turned away by actual content, will now find exactly what they are looking for.
I just dropped Reddit from my phone today, the Firefox moderator protest to change r/firefox to “We are a subreddit about fire foxes aka red pandas” was oddly enough the breaking point for removal from my phone (despite last night’s unfortunate hack).
The protests have just become the new reddit fad. Anyone still there that’s not part of a self-help, resource/info sub, and claiming to be part of the ‘protest’ is just circlejerking.
I’m okay with this. As long as Lemmy is thriving with good content, that’s all I care about.
I hate to see the content we created help fund the pockets of spez and his fellow crooks, but at the same time I’d also hate to see tonnes of possibly the most valuable information on the internet going down the drain. I’ll be happier to see Lemmy get to the point where people can say “there’s a community for everything” more than seeing the collapse of Reddit.
I deleted everything. It’s too bad, a lot of searches are going to turn up threads and find blank spaces where the answers should be.
Yeah I’ve already had a few niche searches result in finding [deleted] content.
I can say I’ve noticed. Do you think spez ever will?
I don’t think it’s ever occurred to spez that anyone else would know more than he does.
Yeah. I don’t expect Reddit to necessarily collapse immediately, or Lemmy to replace Reddit for all Reddit users. I’m just happy if Lemmy becomes at least a medium-sized social network. That means that it would have moved from a niche platform into a large enough ecosystem to sustain itself, and become a viable alternative to Reddit, like you said.
With a huge platform like Reddit, the impact of the current events might not be instantly obvious. But with everything going on recently with Twitter, Reddit, Mastodon, Lemmy, and even Threads, I think it’s clear that there’s some kind of transformation of the social media landscape going on. But how long it will take, and what the end result will look like, is anybody’s guess. Maybe it’s the fall of the old giants and a rise of new, more democratic platforms. Maybe the giants keep standing, but significantly weakened, with a bunch of new, smaller, more open platforms becoming real alternatives. Or maybe it’s something else.
Be it as it may, I’m glad that the status quo is being shaken up a bit.
I’d be happy if Lemmy becomes like what Reddit was when it started and never grew beyond that. I don’t need tons of clickbait outrage trash to doomscroll though every day.
I feel like having no karma and Thus no rewards for such behaviour helps a bit.
The only thing I really miss from Reddit is a few of the smaller, niche subreddits that had small but active userbases. But that will come with time as the Lemmy userbase grows.
This. Some of the users in my favorite niche communities have migrated over, but overall, it’s still a bit of a ghost town compared to the same niches on Reddit.
Reddit was at its best when you stuck to the smaller subs where people were primarily positive and cheering on newbies, which really makes for active, welcoming communities that I truly miss. Having a bigger user base in those smaller communities is invaluable, because having a place to come and get advice from people who’ve been around the block is way different than the blank canvas you find in the same communities on Lemmy. My personal favorites were subs that specialized in “you like this? Have you tried that?”-type threads, and one of the coolest community norms I ever saw was in r/doommetal, where instead of blacklisting bands that got posted too often, they had the “Green List,” and anyone who posted anything from the Green List was cheered on and inundated by suggestions for more bands similar to the OP.
I found many of my favorite small bands and content creators in subs like r/doommetal, r/OSR, and r/boardgames, and the amount of good advice I got in subs like r/professors, r/luthier, and r/chempros is impossible to overstate.
I’ll miss my reddit niches, and I just hope the Lemmy niches eventually grow up to be a real replacement for those communities.
Now that I think about it, what if someone created a Lemmy instance that just… Mirrors chosen Reddit subreddits 1:1 via a scraping bot? So that if you wanted content from a subreddit, you could just subscribe to it on that instance, or ignore it if bot content isn’t what you want. It could work for smaller more niche subreddits (because I suppose that you would quickly run into a throttling problem or bot detection otherwise), but it may kickstart a few communities.
Yeah. I still go to reddit for those, since I don’t have the time or energy to put into moderating anything, and/or don’t want to talk to a void. Sucks, because I want those communities here to be active, but content creation is taxing.
What really helps is the power users and moderators moved over too this time. Hopefully with this type of userbase Lemmy will be able to self-moderate and won’t end up like Voat.
It did indeed, I knew nothing about the fediverse before the reddit protest began, didn’t even know lemmy existed, now I happily migrated here, like me many other people.
Same, joined last week after my app of choice was killed. Already spending more time here than i was at the end of my time on reddit.
Was getting so sick of the rage-bait, low quality comments and general snarky behavior, i might have quit anyway. So much better here.
Boost still works fine for me. Not sure why but I’m content for now
