This idiot glossing over the fact that the Jan 6th traitors not only attempted to capture congress to kill them and the vice president but also shit in their hands and smeared it on the capital walls?
For Real. J6 built a gallows.
They beat policemen to death and wiped their own feces on the walls of our Nation’s Capital.
(I am amazed how often this gets deleted by moderators on lemmy when I point this out)
Removed by mod
I apologize. Of the officers beaten by rioters only one, Brian Sicknick, died directly from the wounds. Fifteen more were hospitalized.
Removed by mod
Why are you splitting hairs to defend insurrectionists?
Is it because they beat capitol police and you hate the police?
If you spread false information, even if it’s in the name of a good cause, you will make it harder for people to believe you or people supporting your good cause when you talk about true information. There’s enough issues with conservatives that you don’t need to invent more like a conspiracy theorist.
Removed by mod
Medical examiners are one step removed from cops (as in they work with cops a lot and a lot of them are ridiculously unqualified political hires) so yeah, it would be stupid to trust them in any even slightly contentious circumstances.
Removed by mod
So what I’m hearing is, we should treat SCOTUS the same way Trump supporters treated Congress on 1/6?
Is that really the argument they want to make?
Removed by mod
They were beating officers and breaking doors and windows so they could get into the chambers and shake the hands of their elected representatives!
They brought pipe bombs, hand cuffs and zip ties as tokens of affection for their elected leaders!
Removed by mod
This guy is going full reddit here. Comparing BLM to the insurrection, acting like they’re the same, and downplaying the insurrection.
I notice that the centrists who call everyone who doesn’t worship Biden’s support for genocide a Trump supporter are silent here.
This is what "both sides"ing actually looks like. This is what Trump support actually looks like. Centrists don’t care in this case because they only oppose those to their left.
Removed by mod
“The only way you could be offended…” lmfao. Get off your high horse bud. And no your arguments are not about peaceful protest but you already know this.
Removed by mod
it seems like what they are saying is that you have to prove they intended harm on those conducting official proceedings.
Uh huh.
So I guess breaking into Congress when it was closed to the public because of COVID, on the day Congress was meeting to certify the winner of an election Trump and his supporters refused to acknowledge he lost, bringing zip tie handcuffs, building a fucking gallows out front, chanting “Hang Mike Pence!”, having guns on the Capitol grounds and stashed around DC, and literally beating the officers who were there to protect Congress, doesn’t mean Trump supporters were there with “intention to harm?”
Yep, sounds exactly the same as being angry about America’s still-extant racism which allows Black men to be murdered by cops to me!
Removed by mod
Quick question there, sparky:
How many people charged for their actions on Jan 6 never entered the Capitol?
Because the only way the logic you’re defending holds up, is if that was the case.
Removed by mod
The only point you seem to make is plugging your ears and talking over and around the actually contextual replies that repeatedly negate your word salad.
Knock it off.
Bro.
Many times it was found that those people breaking shop windows during BLM protests were actually right-wing agitators.
Removed by mod
Well, for starters, the Supreme Court protestors, as near as I can tell, aren’t breaking down windows and doors trying to get in, beating people with flagpoles, carrying zip ties with which to kidnap and detain justices, setting up gallows, or chanting “Hang Clarence Thomas.” (There’s an uncomfortable image if I ever saw one.)
For all the people who upvoted this and clearly didn’t read the article. . .let me quote the relevant part:
Alito acknowledged, “What happened on January 6 was very, very serious, and I’m not equating this with that.” But, he continued, “We need to find out what are the outer reaches of this statute under your interpretation.”
It’s like 200 words into the article.
Seems like it would be pretty typical to see how wide a net prosecutors are casting with their interpretation. He’s clearly not saying nor suggesting that they should be charged, only asking if they would be charged under their current interpretation.
Counterpoint: Alito is a piece of shit and isn’t asking the question in good faith.
More specifically the question is, does the statute in question apply to people preventing a government procedure from occurring? Previously the statute has been used to prosecute folks who tamper with evidence. They’re quibbling over the wording and whether storming a proceeding is also covered.
It’s seems fairly obvious to me that January 6th rioters wanted to stop the proceedings in a way that protestors of the supreme court do not. It also seems obvious that the government wouldn’t want citizens to be able to legally prevent it’s basic proceedings from occurring.
Also worth saying the defendant ran at a police line yelling “charge”
Whataboutism at the Supreme Court. We’re screwed.
If the election goes as well as we can reasonably hope, it might be possible to fix the Supreme Court situation. The biggest obstacle is the Democrats actually taking the W and doing what people want instead of waving their arms and panicking because they’ve won.
Democrats must still listen to their masters, and it ain’t us people
If they stormed the Supreme Court and tried to hang a Republican justice I might see the parallel. I’d be silently wishing them godspeed, but I’d at least admit the justices had a fair point.
Damn, one of those protesters got shot after trying to go through the barricade setup because they got into the building like J6? The protesters literally just got signs out and were yelling in front of the building. May these illegitimate fucks die soon. Kavanaugh cant get cirrhosis fast enough.
I think cirrhosis is afraid of getting Kavanaugh.
Holy false equivalence, Batman.
When was the last time Dobbs protestors took a dump on these asshole’s desk?
Or killed anyone. More’s the pity.
Removed by mod
A police officer, and they’re responsible for the death of one of their own
Removed by mod
Fucker wants to know why peaceful protesters who just want their bodily rights aren’t being prosecuted just like hypocritical assholes who say they respect Blue Lives but aren’t averse to killing a cop or two while overthrowing the govt.
Much hilarity ensues.
Because only one of those groups were patsies led by a handful of traitors to our country in a plot to overthrow our elected government. And it wasn’t the Dobbs protesters.
Removed by mod
Some of them were and are. Sorry, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim they were all in on the real plot. That doesn’t mean they weren’t taking part in an insurrection, of course - ignorance is no excuse.
The punishment laid out in their convictions take into account how involved they were in the insurrection. The Supreme Court isn’t taking that into account. Many are getting a simple fine for trespassing, but the ones that went with the intent of causing trouble are getting the actual real punishments.
These justices can fuck all the way off but this headline is taken out of context.
From the article: Alito acknowledged, “What happened on January 6 was very, very serious, and I’m not equating this with that.” But, he continued, “We need to find out what are the outer reaches of this statute under your interpretation.”
“I’m not equating those two things,” lied the justice as he equated those two things.
I love how unflattering the pic of Alito is. While he’s no looker at the best of times, this one captures his personality better than most.
