And despite the prevalence of the Israel-Palestine conflict, the issue does not seem to be the driver of Biden’s base or electorate troubles.
“Defections over Gaza make up a little over 1 percent of Biden’s 2020 vote share. That’s not nothing, but also that’s such a small share. If you want to look at why Biden is sliding, the bigger reason is obviously the economy,” Jain told me. “If you look at people defecting over Gaza, 17 percent of them think that it’s because he’s been too favorable to Palestine.”
It’s the economy, stupid.
Yeah, and I’ve said this before, but you quoted the relevant part: he’s not taking action against Israel because he’s stands to lose more in the election than he gains. And if Trump wins the election, he will absolutely give Israel explicit support for going all-in on the genocide, including expelling from Gaza all Palestinians that they don’t murder.
You could argue that maintaining a supportive posture for Israel at this juncture benefits the Palestinians. There’s simply too much lobbying money, and still too much voting solidarity, at stake; and Biden’s bad for Palestine, but Trump is worse. We could hope that is Biden wins he’ll take a firmer stance against the genocide, but I’m hoping it quietly.
I’m depressingly curious why voters would trust trump on anything .
They get news from different sources than you do.
That doesn’t solve the mystery. If those sources were the only ones I could read, I still wouldn’t think Trump was anything but a liar.
You honestly believe that? Our perception of the world and our opinions is formed by what we see and here. It’s that simple. Not sure how you think you somehow transcend that, and have some innate ability to discern truth from propaganda. Whole nations and civilizations have been deceived by propaganda and none of us is above that. So the question we should be asking ourselves is what propaganda are we consuming and how is that affecting us?
I wouldn’t believe the same things I believe now. I don’t think I am some kind of truth oracle.
But I wouldn’t believe Trump is an honest or God fearing man. That requires an emotional investment in the lie that I don’t think any version of me could sustain.
The divorces, the lechery, the misogyny, the racism, the repeated refusal to pay his contractors. (Theft)
Those are matters of public record. They vastly predate his status as a politician. Trump was a real life movie villain back in the 1980’s when Back to the Future was made.
If I was still a Christian hearing my pastor sing Trump’s praises every week would make me question the pastor, and if the congregation stuck by him I would question the whole church.
I think those are fair criticisms of Trump’s moral character, and evidence that he is not a person worthy of admiration and praise from a pastor or as a man of faith and religion. It’s pretty clear, to me at least, that his religion is a tool to appeal to a certain political base.
But this is not unique among politicians. At that level of politics, morality and character are whatever they need to be in order to get votes from their base.
So different news sources simply down play the bad aspects of his character and emphasize the good. They also amplify wrongdoing of his opposition, focus on injustice towards him, and discuss all the bad things that will happen if the opposition wins. It’s all the same tactics preying on people’s emotions and basic instincts, just spun up a little differently.
I don’t know what value or use it is to know these things, or dwell on them. Each of us still comes back to the values we hold closest, and support whichever candidate best represents those values, knowing that they will never be fully or perfectly represented.
It’s not the economy, stupid. It’s Israel.
Another poll showing nonwhite voters as some of the people most likely to be breaking from Biden. Can’t wait for lemmy to tell me how privileged they all are for not liking Biden.
