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Where do you think pizza comes from?
Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. 💪
Sure, but the Americanized versions of Italian, German, or Chinese foods were made by immigrants adapting their traditional recipes with ingredients they had on hand.
Just like how italian, German, and Chinese foods came about! America is just more recent and we tend to keep the labels of the influences ao it is more obvious.
Well, that and adjusting to suit mainstream tastes. Like how garlic bread is largely a Western introduction in Korea, but is preferred sweet there instead of savory.
Development of cuisine is a fascinating thing!
I can’t speak for German or Chinese food, but having been to Italy, a good NYC slice beats anything the Italians have to offer.
Hard disagree there. I’ve visited both and tried both. NYC pizza is disappointingly average.
To be fair Chinese food in Europe doesn’t have much to do with actual Chinese food either
Dude I had sweet and sour chicken at a Chinese food joint in a mall in chemnitz Germany, it was a friggin schnitzel. Just with sweet sour sauce. And instead of potatoes it was a ball of rice lol. I found the picture I took here 🤣:
If I wasn’t paying attention, looks like katsu curry until I notice the sauce looks like pure sugar. But ya nowadays everyone’s got their schnitzel variant 😂
Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.
I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!
Pizza existed before they had tomatoes tho
I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it’s pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you’re being pedantic.
Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.
Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on
Also, we Costco-sized it. That is a single slice of pizza in that photo.
It’s Chinese inspired American food.
To be fair, most of what I’ve seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.
Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region’s cuisine and not another’s. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.
Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as “Italian ice cream”.
What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.
In many places
In very few places ftfy
slightly
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Italian pizza is really different than American.
Yes, usually it’s a whole pizza, not one tenth
Pizza al taglio?
Va bene per i bambini
You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.
Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.
Hah! In Scotland we dip pizza in batter and deep fry it. With a deep-fried Mars bar for afters.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/five-glaswegian-chip-shop-delicacies-11462402
Time to make a pilgrimage
Get drunk before having it, but if you’re coming here you were probably going to do that anyway
The first big wave of immigrants to the US were the Scotch-Irish, which is where the American propensity to deep fry everything comes from.
You can aslo the American usurpation and economic dominance over England as those Scotch-Irish getting their revenge.
Guys, guys, there’s no point in intercontinental squabbling, we should focus on the real enemy, uh… teleporting space squid
Wait… is that a reference to the original Watchmen comic?
You know it
I’m calling Gordon Ramsey on your ass.
Gordon Ramsey would deep fry that pizza in wagyu tallow.
That deep fried creme egg looks naughty
I don’t know any European that would only eat a slice of pizza instead of the whole thing.
The only time an European eats a single slice of pizza is the next morning after they have overestimated their ability to devour the entire thing.
The third whole pizza*
Fourth. But small. D300 small.
I’m on my way home from Amsterdam atm, a slice of pizza was €10.
I skipped that and left hungry, because i’m buying two pizza’s and a big bottle of coke when i get home in about an hour.
Damn, you can get an entire large pizza for $10 at Costco. Granted, your only options are pepperoni or cheese, and the quality isn’t the best (far from the worst, though), but it’ll feed 1-3 people.
Still, I miss the days when you could a large pizza with unlimited toppings at various chain restaurants for $10. But that was over 10 years ago.
You only need to be a cosco member and hopefully not have any previous experience with pizza
A large Costco pizza will feed way more than 1-3. I’m not even trying to act like bird food eater here. I’m 225lbs and 6’2” so I know how to eat.
That said, I absolutely love Costco pizza and my safe zone is like 2 slices because they are enormous.
Domino’s still regularly has €5 pizza’s on monday for pickup, at my old job during the late shift we had €17 per person to spend on food and 2 people in the shift.
We used to order 2 family xxl with their thursday 50% off for second pizza and a regular sized cheeseburger pizza+ drinks for that €34.
We both ate half our xxl and shared the regular size one, the remainder came home to feed our wives while the company covered the cost.
They even paid us a pretty decent wage too, but unfortunately the head office decided to build a new automated warehouse right when covid started that ended up only doing 30% productivity and they closed us down as a result.
Yes, but you’re forgetting that’s just a light snack to stop them from starving to death on the way home.
I also don’t know any Italian who eats their Pizza by slicing it up, folding the slice, and shoving it into their mouthes, instead of with knife and fork, like a civilized person.
I’ve seen people rolling their whole pizza to eat it like a Lahmacun.
In fact it was only one person but I’ve seen it quite often because we saw daily.
Swiss Calzone
That was in Italy? An Italian person did that?
That slice comes from a pie almost half a meter in diameter. That single slice has the surface area of most European pizzas.
Nope, you deerly underestimate the hunger for pizza over here.
I live in Germany.
You underestimate these Costco pizzas. On the 1600 square centimeters, they pile half a kilo of cheese
It could kill a European, if consumed by a European. However, it is consumed by an American, so it kills an American.
My pet peeve is when lids are slightly on. It’s worse than having no lid at all.
Those new, shitty lids are always slightly on. That’s as “on” as they get.
And they break for like no reason
I don’t even know if that counts as on at all. It is really just laid on top partially covering it.
I once went to a Polish restaurant and the starter was pork fat on toast.
And a hazelnut vodka.
There are many ways for a heart to implode.
Pork fat is less processed product and certainly more healthy. America isn’t actually great at much but one thing we do have is the least healthy food to ever exist.
Truth. Heart disease wasn’t nearly as prevalent back when we cooked everything with lard. And then Crisco came along, started producing that overprocessed “vegetable oil” garbage, marketed it (and continue to market it) as “healthy”, and people actually fell for their BS. Hell, judging by the amount of downvotes you got, half the public still believes this lie.
A lot of this is because people had to do a lot more exercise during the day than we do now. Not that the lard was better for us. This is where a lot of the downvotes come from. Even the rich had to do a lot more walking. If we could return to the amount of exercise we averaged 50+ years ago, you would see a lot of this decline. The next big thing is the amount we eat. We consume significantly more calories now than we used to. In the past 100 years it has increased ~20%. All the while we have been doing less physically. The third big factor is where the shitty food comes in. Having sugar/highly refined carbs added to just about everything promotes over-eating, while also fucking with your insulin production, and other endocrine issues, that promote fat retention, while also increasing addictive eating disorder likelihood.
High super consumption has much more impact on heart health than fats as well.
Wow you got down voted for the truth
There’s a lot of options to eat well however
Hot roast chicken skin chopped onto rice is a meal fit for the gods.
Better than bacon. And I know those are fighting words in some places. Just embrace the schmaltz and let it drip into the rice.
The key is to get to that skin while it’s still hot, but before it winds up in the fridge. You can reconstitute it in a skillet, like bacon, but it’s just not the same.
Eating animal parts totally makes me feel like a Ferengi eyeing your latinum ring.
Polish hazelnut booze is awful. Granted I only know Solpica, but one shot tastes the whole day and maybe longer.
As an European, I cannot comprehend the width of that centre console. 2 drinks side-by-side AND some extra? Must be a full eagle screech wtf is a kilometer V8 mortr truck.
When I was a kid, I remember being impressed that my dad’s Dodge Ram could fit an entire laptop in the center console, horizontally.
In some cases it’s actually 3 drinks side by side…
Generally the center consoles of full sized trucks and SUVs is as large as it is because people on construction sites wanted a file cabinet holder center console. So it can hold an 8.5 x 11 or A4 sized paper horizontally in the center with a holder.
They can also fit 3 across the front a lot of the time
That be a truck, the center console can be flipped up to have a central seat in trucks where the shifter is on the steering column or besides the radio (dial in Ram trucks).
Fun fact:
It’s “a European” since the pronunciation starts with “ˌjʊ”. Similar thing with “university”.
I’m not trying to be a dick but to spread information.
Ok, that’s all. Thank you for reading :)
Italians will cook your pasta inside a whole wheel of cheese. Spaniards deep fry pork belly and serve it as a snack. Last time I was in Eastern Europe I thought something was a sweet only to discover it was a lump of straight-up pork fat. Just raw. To munch on.
Americans may be more consistent at eating gross murderfood regularly and in large quantities, but they sure aren’t the only ones to have it.
The big difference is in the details.
Italians dont cook your pasta in that wheel. They throw it in there and shove it around. Its no comparison to that center console by any stretch. The countries that munch on raw fat are usually freezing cold and very rough in terms of manual labor conditions. People burn through double the amount of calories or more if they have heavy manual labor and cold climate.
Maybe not the spaniards though. ;)
You’ve never been to the Po Valley. We fry mortadella here.
Oh god… I can feel it, I can feel the East Germans commenting “that’s a Jägerschnitzel” and then the flame war with the Austrians kicks off.
Speaking of schnitzel, I was once in a very much European (but not German or Austrian) snitzel place and got served a schnitzel as the base of what seemed to be a pepperoni pizza topping.
You could also get it rolled up like a kebab with the cheese on the inside to eat on the go. I wish I had pictures, it’s simultaneously the worst and best thing I’ve put in my mouth.
Oh wow!
I live in Scotland, our chip shops do deep fried battered pizza. Get on our levels.
They probably have that at a state fair here in the US. They deep fry everything there, even Oreos.
State fair’s only around for one time a year, my local chippy is open all year around.
Deep Fried Butter. Stick of fat wrapped in carbs fried in more fat. I don’t think that can be topped.
Deep fried mars bar?
We do have deep fried cheesesteaks
I think maybe I could go for some deep fried cheesecake
I’m craving deepfried meatshake…
Fuck you now I’m craving a half pizza supper and a deep fried mars bar but the nearest proper chippy is thousands of miles away back home in scotland 😭
I’m ever astonished at the variety of deep fried stuff at Appalachian festivals and fairs. All these stalls trying to one-up the rest with the lengths they are willing to go into hot fat depravity. Grease-boiled confections and savories of every niche. A healthcare nightmare. But this is a region steeped in despair. It’s tough to heap blame on folks giving up.
Or a piece an’ Macaroni Pie. Carb in Carb in Carb. I’m sure you could get the pie battered too in the right chip shop.
If you eat a battered macaroni pie in a roll and down it with Irn Bru, Highland Cathedral will start playing out of nowhere.
You know, Costco exists in Europe as well, with the same food order menu.
I (an American) had actually never heard of Costco until I moved to Japan. Where I grew up we had Sam’s Club, but no Costco, so when I got to Japan and the other foreigners were talking about how they love getting the chance to go down to Costco, I had no idea what they were talking about.
Didn’t see a Costco in person until a few years later.
You merely adopted the $4.99 rotisserie chicken.
I was born into it, moulded by it.
Why you didn’t see the $1.49 hotdog meal combo until you were a man.
Sam’s club is superior anyway. They have a larger and more stable selection at the same or better prices.
Yea but then you’ll be supporting Walmart. So there’s that.
Yeah but worse labor practices.
Well I for one did not know that actually!
Similar, perhaps. I enjoyed visiting Costco in England and devouring jacket (baked) potatoes with Heinz baked beans (I’m aware this is Lemmy…), Shepherd’s Pie and a hot cup of Yorkshire Tea - so the menu is localised too.
I don’t remember if they also had the typical American fare when I was there, because I was more interested in the British cuisine I had missed so much. They may have had the froyo and hotdogs. Im certain there must have been pizza, surely.
I remember buying a coke in america for the first time and the whole family sharing it lol. The crazy shit we ate in america became our family inside joke.
I too enjoy coke more with some company if you catch my drift
As long as it’s a different straw for every one.
The real crime is eating that in your car
Be me using FSD to hold pizza in one hand, drink in the other, while I mow down children with reckless abandon
This should be our citizenship test.
I think we should do it mukbang style. Here’s a huge pile of food, you have to eat at least 3000 calories in 5 minutes to pass
Yes, and it has to be competitive to show their true capitalist spirit.
Looks like half the calories of a swiss fondue. We are not really European though.
Swiss
We are not really European though.
😂
It’s like saying Canadians are Americans. They do live on the American continent but are not part of the United States.
No, that is like saying Canadians are on the american continent. Which they are. And so you are European.
Sorry, I didn’t know the European adjective was only referring to the continent and never to the European Union.
I still defend my point about the calories in the cheese though!
We do need an adjective for the EU. Unionist? I feel like it might be taken already…
United States of Europe? (lol
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not really European
Wdym by that ?
Switzerland is geographically in Europe but we are not part of the European Union. We don’t want to share our cheese.
EUROPEAN (adjective) Belonging to or relating to Europe or its people.
That cheese got in your head.
Yeaaah maybe I missed some subtlety of the adjective, sorry.
Hopefully I can catch some of this cheese in my head with my tongue.
I’m not sure if that thought is hilarious or disgusting :D
Didn’t your cheese production become too clean to produce the legendary holes?
Most of our cheeses never had holes. The ones that did still have them. You should have a look at our famous (although not the best in my opinion) Emmental if you like a cheese with holes (or should I call it holy cheese?!)
Hmm that’s like the Indian reservations in Canada and the USA. Never thought about that before. Are they considered to be in Canada/usa? I’m pretty based off of watching Yellowstone that they get passports… anyway now I’m just rambling
Its not really like that at all. Switzerland is very much part of Europe and shares European culture and history with the rest of us. That person is just a little bit confused.
Fondue, with a starter plate of cured meats and a desert of meringue covered in double cream.
As it should be! But please make sure it’s either a “moitié moitié” or a full vacherin cheese.
Oh and for those thinking this is too much, some even throw in an egg into the cauldron once the melted cheese is gone.
On which continent are you then?
As someone on a diet: fuck OP for posting this
And all of that is around $5-6!
If true, that explains a lot. Where I’m from the pizza slice alone costs that much.
Costco is unique in its food court prices, they must be heavy into loss leader territory at this point. It was a really good deal back before covid, and these days it’s basically daylight robbery compared to anywhere else.
Not only that, but the food kiosks (at my local location, anyway) don’t scan your costco membership either, so you can just walk in the exit and get some food without signing up.
I think it could make sense not to scan for memberships and allow nonmembers to buy the food even through it’s a loss leader. If people are coming in for the good deal, especially if they’re coming regularly, there’s a chance they’ll buy a membership and start shopping there
Costco’s business model is wild if you look into it. Pretty much every item they sell is a loss-leader for their actual money maker - memberships.
They always get me on higher end frozen food items I end up wanting to try, even though they’re not really a better deal than what I could get at Safeway.
I’d love to see how that works out for their higher end memberships, where you get money back for buying shit.
I think you have to spend something like $6000 over a year to make back the total cost of the membership… but that’s not completely unreasonable if you get quite a few things there regularly.
(This is in Germany) My upper middle class Family of six spends around $250 a week on groceries, which comes out to over 15k a year, so that would definitely be reasonable for families etc.
:laughs in several hundred dollar Costco bill:
Not even that. Their pizza slices are $1.50 and their soda is 0.69¢. idk how much the ice cream costs.
Edit: pizza slices are $2, I just checked. It’s the hotdog and soda combo that is $1.50.
$2 pizza and $3 ice cream/ smoothies here, YMMV.
Their pizza slice is only $1.50
Where?
The pizza slices haven’t been that cheap around me since ever. That’s the price of the hotdog combo. Everything else is $3+ with the chicken bake being the most expensive at almost $5. I’d kill for $1.50 Costco pizza 🤤
The pizza slices are about $2, the whole pizza is only $10
Actually I just checked. The pizza slice is $2. I was thinking of the hotdog and soda combo, which is $1.50. Costco prices have always been consistent for me regardless of location. Even across two different states. Here’s the full menu that I found online, although they don’t usually have all of these options. I’m still bummed out that they stopped offering onions for the hotdogs.
Hot Dog & Drink: $1.50 Roast Beef Sandwich: $9.99 Pizza (Slice): $1.99, Whole: $9.95 Soda: $0.69 Churro: $1.49 Ice Cream Sundae: $2.49 Ice Cream Cup: $1.99 Cold Brew Mocha Freeze: $2.99 Mango Smoothie: $2.99 Rotisserie Chicken Caesar Salad: $6.99 Chicken Bake: $3.99A few years ago I read that Costco loses twenty million dollars per year on their rotisserie chickens. They sell them at a loss, and put them in the back of the store, hoping you’ll buy some other shit while you’re there.
