Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”
Huh. Have any of them considered a job? If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state to murder some people, I bet she could drive for uber or something. Or be a getaway driver for other criminals, idk.
There’s a certain type of person who thinks work is beneath them. That’s who the Rittenhouse family is.
…what? What are you basing this on?
When the children were small, Wendy and Mike worked various jobs, including machine operator, housekeeper, and cashier.
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Wendy had become a certified nursing assistant, but she continued to struggle financially. The family was repeatedly evicted.
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In 2018, shortly after another eviction, Wendy filed for bankruptcy. She developed a gastrointestinal bleed that required hospitalization, and Faith was also hospitalized, after an attempted overdose involving over-the-counter painkillers
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante
Gotta love a conservative family that votes to undermine all the social services they’d need in situations like this. But they seem to be able to afford guns…
In fairness guns are way more affordable than healthcare is America. Sports cars are more affordable than healthcare in America.
See also: schadenfreude
I think it’s an apt term for watching leopards eating the faces of their allies.
Edit: for those unfamiliar with the reference, here’s a rundown of The Leopards Eating Faces Party.
- Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party
“Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party refers to a parody of regretful voters who vote for cruel and unjust policies (and politicians) and are then surprised when their own lives become worse as a result. It has been commonly used to parody regretful Brexit and Trump voters.”
Yeah, exactly. Fuck them all.
A CNA does not earn money, it’s pretty much a minimum wage job. This person did not have the necessary intelligence or drive to attain their bachelors and become a full nurse–it’s as simple as that.
My sister in law, bless her, is really one of the angriest persons you will ever meet. She hates everything out there and the world is bad, blah blah blah. I asked her why she became a phlebotomist. She told me she wanted to be a nurse but could not pass English 101. Seriously.
Kyle’s mom? She’s the same.
I hate to defend Kyle’s mom, but man, shouldn’t a CNA or a phlebotomist be able to afford to survive in the area they work? In their case, I guess you reap what you sow.
Yea being a cna is tough and underpaid. My ex is one, takes a couple months of study and passing a test. I, with a highschool degree made 6 dollars more than her when her job was 3 times tougher. It’s criminal. She worked harder and longer hours in a dangerous place with people who could and would harras and harm her. The harrasment was mental, verbal, physical and sexual as well. Fuck boomers.
You remember businesses calling everyone who worked a low appreciation job heroes? CNAs got the shittiest end of the stick on that I think.
Giant banners calling you heroes greet you as you drive on the lot of the nursing home, and you look at them knowing you’re going to get physically shit on by the patients, and proverbially shit on by the higher level nurses, the administration that now works remote, the family of the patients, and of course the patients again as well. For $12/hr. And you’re extra short staffed because anyone that could find travel work did. Brutal shit for them.
Holy hell if you aren’t right. I recall her getting all of those things at her work too and a measly 40 cent raise lul. All those banners and pins and lanyards and little gift bags if tiny hand sanetizers and candy. I think she made like 16 here in cali at the time, I recall hearing there’s a laaw that was gonna be passed or already passed to get them up to like 20 or 21 at the minimum. Crazy to think that’s what mcDonald’s employees earn here now while plenty of cnas in other parts of the state earn less still.
On the Dollop podcast if you’ve ever heard of it, one of the hosts is named Gareth. Gareth points out in an episode that in American culture we only ever call “heroes” the people we deem ‘expendable’. I have been unable to find a counterexample to that claim ever since I heard it.
I mean, I’d bet the majority of people on here would say anyone working a legit full time job should be able to afford to survive.
Depends on whether you mean Lemmy or .world
It’s no different than public school teachers, I suppose. It’s not a field you get into unless it calls you for some reason–you’re certainly not in it for the money.
We really need to reprioritize how we fund things around the world.
That very much comes off sounding ableist
My son was making $30/hr as a CNA.
That’s not a well paying job. I’m sorry that you think it is.
I never said “well paying”. You said CNA makes minimum wage. $30 > minimum wage.
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That’s $62,000 annually. The median personal income in the US as of 2022 was $40,480, which means that’s about 50% above the median.
Not sure what you’re on that you don’t think that’s a pretty decent individual income.
According to the article his sister has been hospitalized and both her and their mother have a hard time getting work because of being associated with Kyle Rittenhouse. BTW the mother did not drive him that’s a fallacy
Ok then I retract the part about driving. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for her being unable to get a job. She’s repeatedly defended him and said she stands by him, and she allowed her 17 year old to buy a gun he couldn’t legally have and to drive without a license. Being associated with him is her doing. I have a family member who was a teenage white supremacist piece of shit (who was thankfully stopped by the FBI before he killed anyone), and you can bet nobody thinks I’m associated with him because I make it very clear where I stand. If I said he was a good person and I’ll always support him, I wouldn’t be shocked if employers said nah.
Sure, but she’s also his mother, not a random family member. I’m not going to fault a mother for standing by their child, no matter what he did.
She didn’t let him buy anything, but she couldn’t make him get rid of it because it wasn’t in her house. It was locked up at a friend’s house in a different town.
She was also ill, poor, dyslexic, and a single parent dealing with a difficult child. She doesn’t seem to have much in her life but her children, I’m not going to condemn her for not banishing him from her life. It’s not an easy thing for a mother to do.
If that’s the case, it’s sad then that he apparently doesn’t seem willing to return the good will and unconditional support, if he’s refusing to help them with rent. Abandoning the one person who would always have your back…
Sad and entirely predictable; we already knew he was a shitbag
I’m not going to fault a mother for standing by their child, no matter what he did.
You can stand by your child by always having room in your home for them. You can still condemn their action and say they might not know any better or something like that.
Yeah absolutely fuck Kyle Rittenhouse but Kyle lied to his mom that night about what he was up to, and the mom clearly had no intention of being a willing accomplice to murder.
Nah but she was totally down for taking him drinking with the Proud Boys.
This is mental gymnastics
His mom was with him at a bar and he was photographed throwing white power hand signs.
So maybe he drove them there but she was sure was okay with him being a piece of shit then.
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Smear? Just pointing out she raised a piece of shit, encouraged shitty behavior, and she doesn’t deserve sympathy that her piece of shit son isn’t supporting his piece of shit mom.
Parents are responsible for the actions of their children. She’s the reason he owned the gun.
Dude I really, really don’t like or support this dude but that’s not true. He didn’t keep it at her (his) house because he specifically knew she would not permit him to have it. She literally tried to parent, and he snuck around her by keeping it at a friend’s house.
No she literally isn’t. It was bought for him by somebody else in another city, where it was kept.
Fallacy is a fault in logic, not a falsehood.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc (after it therefore because of it) is a fallacy. Or an appeal to authority is a fallacy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy
a false or mistaken idea
You’re thinking specifically of logical fallacies.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Kyle lied to her about everything he was doing that night.
He did. The gun was never in her home, she couldn’t do anything about it. It was locked up at his friend’s house because his mother wouldn’t have permitted him to have it.
Yeah, but she’s related to him and loves him because he is her son, and we hate him, so obviously she should suffer too. Justice and empathy? Fuck that. We’re outraged and out for some suffering.
No, she should have social supports, education, a safety net, retirement and security. The exact things people like her piece of shit brother actively try to deny others all the time. Society tried to help this person.
Now on an individual level before I would ever help her, I’d want to know if she ever saw a cent of Kyle’s blood money.
Says the person simping for a murderer
I don’t think you read that right tbh
You are spreading misinformation: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-255510715179
The spreading of that, along with medical issues, is why they are having troubles.
Did you read the rest of the thread? I already acknowledged that I was wrong about that part, but they’re saying they can’t get work because of him while still refusing to condemn him. The GoFundMe says he was “involved in a tragic shooting incident,” which is a pretty weasely way to say he killed people.
I also question that it really has anything to do with him. He’s certainly not having any issues making money, and there are a concerning number of people who consider him a hero, or at the very least aren’t bothered by what he did (see the comments on this post for a whole lot of evidence). Surely some of them are hiring.
So, here’s the thing.
He shouldn’t have gone there. Being there, being armed, there to protect property, was taken to be provocative by the people that were protesting cops shooting an unarmed man.
But the narrative that we got in the news wasn’t how things actually went down. The first person confronted him and tried to grab his rifle when he wasn’t threatening anyone. The second person that was shot had just chased Rittenhouse down and struck him with a skateboard. The third person was pointing a pistol at Rittenhouse when he was shot in the arm. Source.
Given that he was not directly threatening anyone there, it was a clear-cut case of self-defense. Yeah, I don’t like it that a shitty person walks away, but he walked because he wasn’t guilty of a crime in defending himself. Is he still a right-wing shitstain that’s supposedly too dumb to get into the military? Yeah. But self-defense is a right for everyone.
If Kyle has money (he does, from dumbass rubes), he should help his family. Fuck this shitty little selfish murderer.
She didn’t drive him there. It’s been factually proven. Dudes a fucking murderer for sure, but his mom didn’t drive him to kill people. He did that shit on his own.
Is it possible that maybe he’s a piece of shit?
I mean, maybe? But other than wild speculation, is there any evidence?
Fucking /s because those of you that don’t get it are dumb enough to think The Boys got all anti-you all of a sudden too.
Dude, you absolutely need the /s on this one. There are people who authentically say this. And they read your comment thinking you and the upvoters all support that same belief too
Done.
Ty
Personally I can’t believe he’s crying about 4 downvotes. lol
No evidence whatsoever. None.
But other than wild speculation, is there any evidence?
He did drive up to Ohio to shoot people.
those of you that don’t get it are dumb
I wish I didn’t know people who would say that shit entirely unironically.
Not defending him, but it was Wisconsin, in a city less than 30 minutes from where he lived, barely across state lines.
This case is fucked in so many ways, and it’s even worse because nobody remembers any of the details right.
Only alternative facts
No no, see he shot a registered sex offender (which he couldn’t have possibly known at the time)!
And even if he did know it, vigilante justice is not a route society should go down.
I think you might be onto something there.
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He didn’t even make much cash, lol. After the initial attention everything dried up and now he’s got a hard time getting normal jobs, lol
gotta be honest, i wouldn’t hire him
Yeah, you might accidentally bump into him in the hallway and he would stand his ground and gun you down for the audacity.
Just because of the whole murder thing? It was legal!
Typical leftist cancel culture. You commit just one white supremacist terror attack, and all of a sudden you’re a pariah!
I will not hire anyone who so much as smells conservative.
Eh, thats pretty lame.
Holy shit some of you really suck if you dont understand how lame it is to not hire people who disagree with you. Im not conservative by any measure, but who wants to live in a world where you cant do a job if you slightly disagree with your coworker? Thats insane.
Yeah, I feel bad for his mom and sister struggling but he clearly fucked around and now he is finding out.
Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”
The piece of shit is being a total piece of shit? shocked pikachu
While shitty, what does him helping them financially have to do with anything? He shouldn’t be responsible for them. There are many people in the US in worse situations, and they don’t get special treatment because, I guess, they aren’t family with a famous murderer.
well yeah, but like, if you get free money from people for shooting some guy at a protest, the least you could do is share some of that money with your family.
What makes you think this bastard comprehends the concept of empathy?
Aaaaand now we’re back at the piece of shit acting like a piece of shit.
Bro djd you not see how torn up he was at the trial? He’s , like, the most empathetic person on earth.
Share it wider: “it takes a village to raise a vigilante” or at least to look the other way.
It takes a vigilante to raze a village? That other way?
I’m imagining the family from Million Dollar Baby walking in from Disney World going “What do you mean you ain’t got any more of that shootin’ people money??”
Most of us struggle month to month, most of us dont attempt to leech blood money to unburden our struggle. Most of us don’t run to the media to cry about how our murderthing fascist familial connection isn’t letting us leech their blood money.
If I was Kyle Rittenhouse, I wouldn’t give a single dime to the people who created Kyle Rittenhouse. They created an unlovable twerp, they shouldn’t profit from that.
In this case (according to the donation page), he is part of the reason they are in this mess, as his mom is unable to find employment since everyone thinks she drove him to the protest where he shot those people.
Although that sucks, I can’t blame people for naturally putting some fault on her even for the wrong reasons.
I don’t think she should struggle but she did raise him. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime but imo parents should take responsibility of raising shitty kids.
Sounds like the town knows something we don’t or are they just punking this woman on a trust me bro.
Funny how society will act like this here but then we have Cathlic pedos living in the community and nothing happens.
People as a community have some weird sense of morals
I don’t think I would want anything to do with her either. It’s not fully rational or fair but it’s the way it is. Her position as his mom means she pretty much has to defend her son’s multiple murder and there are 8 billion people on earth, I don’t have to spend a minute with someone who would do that.
Plus if I was going to hire her I would wonder how much crap this is going to cost me. It’s not a heavily populated area and the name is rare enough. At best she is going to be neutral at worst she is going to attract the kind of people I don’t want around or infuriate other people.
I am a parent myself. If you don’t like my kids I don’t like you.
How do you feel about people who feel neutral about your kids?
Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being? All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn’t impact you. Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn’t bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.
I don’t know any people who are wired this way.
Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being?
I just meant indifferent really.
All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn’t impact you.
There are a lot of people that currently exist and are in pain but it has little to no impact on me even though providing help would require nothing more than some more time and manpower.
Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn’t bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.
This, I think provides for an interesting thought-experiment. Do we know how long it takes to press a button? Is the button-press speed limited by the latency of the circuitry it’s connected to? Exactly how many people are currently in pain? It’s obviously lots but can we come up with a relatively specific number? With what frequency does the number of suffering people change?
Then there are also some questions with more relative ethical implications that might also be: How many hours a week should a person spend pressing this button? How many people should press this button? If all previously suffering people are getting their buttons pressed then how will we know when someone is happy and flourishing? Isn’t suffering an implied opposite of flourishing? What other implications of the anti-suffering button are there?
I don’t know the answer to these questions, but you have certainly given me lot’s to ponder.
[edit][post] On further research I guess this sounds kind of like Negative Ultilitarianism which appears to be a subset of Utilitarianism.
they’re trying to get libs who hate kyle to help
Most people who aren’t conservative psychopaths actually like their families and want to help them when they can.
Agreed.
We know that we are not the only family struggling to rebuild after that fateful night
And look at the struggles his sister is going through. Profound tone-deafness is a real wipepo problem, a syndrome second only to affluenza in terms of collateral damage and suffering.
She needs help! Hit up your friends; especially the strong ones who like pizza and beer. Dig deep for those truck keys and clear the calendars for next weekend so you can help … move.
It’s his mom, Jesus dude.
Yeah, and we shouldn’t pity them because they have an asshole son. Sure, it’d be the right thing for him to do if he were a good person, but him not taking financial responsibility for them doesn’t mean anyone else should be either. I’d much rather them help someone else.
It’s his mom. What is wrong with you people? Me and my mom have a shit relationship but if I crippled her ability to work or she was going to be out on the street I would send her cash. Me and my wife send her parents money each month. It is a very small price to pay for giving me my partner.
They’re asking for money from other people. Yes, he should give them money. He is profiting off of murder. He’s an asshole. Why should anyone else give them money though? I don’t pity them. The mom raised an asshole murderer. Maybe it’s not her fault, but she has to have some responsibility in it.
Tbf, maybe we shouldn’t vilify them because of the actions of their son/brother so bad that they can’t be employed. I don’t hire people but the only reason not to would be the negative publicity from hiring them from people like those in this thread, I doubt if you gave his mom a job she’ll show up and shoot someone every morning.
Kyle Rittenhouse learning that his family is struggling.
That’s actually him learning that one of the people he shot at survived. Just a reminder, this shithead crossed state lines to dump gas on the fire of a protest and riot caused by disgusting, racially motivated circumstances.
He wanted to kill some people that night, so he brought a big gun. His success resulted in a lot of free money from the folks that want everyone else struggling to survive without violating a ten commandment to go hungry.
Just a reminder, this shithead crossed state lines to dump gas on the fire of a protest
The “crossed state lines” thing really irks me because does nobody know that maps exist? I’m thinking about crossing state lines today because I need to get more baby wipes. Shithead went to the next town over, which just so happened to be in a different state.
But let’s also not forget he went and partied with KKK members immediately after posting his crowdfunded bail, just in case there’s any questions on how much of a shithead he is
The straw purchase of the murder weapon the judge shrugged and tossed on a whim is something that can land you in jail for 10 years.
There was a parallel case to Rittenhouse: Andrew Coffee IV. He was acquitted in his case but the charge of his weapon possession is what got him 10 years.
But Rittenhouse’s judge figured hey, NBD, and everybody clapped.
I’ve lived in the edge of a state before. It’s really hard to miss what side of the populated area is one state or another, and the fact that there are laws about crossing. I knew if I went shooting in CA I needed to keep my ammunition and firearm in seperate compartments, unloaded, and that I couldn’t have friends buy me a gun to take across if I couldn’t legally buy it myself. And I was just shooting clay pigeons, not my racially hated neighbors.
I sure as hell know which side of the state border my town is on is the one where I don’t want to be caught with weed in my car.
He’s a prick but everyone he shot was the same race as him.
I’m sure that disappointed him deeply, the blatant racism isn’t erased by this. He’s publicly linked himself to well known racists, he’s not shy about it, also he clearly went in the hopes of killing black people, pretty sure he said as much before he left.
I’m not arguing that he isn’t racist. Just wanted to make sure you understood the situation properly so as not to spread misinformation.
Also I don’t know if you know this, but most white supremacist would be more inclined to kill ‘‘race traitors’’ before killing other races in many situations.
I’m not saying he killed who he intended to kill. I’m saying my plan was to shoot clay pigeons. His plan was to shoot BLM protestors.
you think they don’t covet their neighbors wives, take the lord’s name in vain, worship false idols/put other gods before “him” and don’t steal?
But who actually cares? Stop talking about this useless waste of life.
I care because I noticed that all the people defending him won’t talk about what happened afterwards meanwhile they never stop reminding us that the men he murdered had criminal records.
It is inconsistent. If they can bring up the past I can bring up the future.
What happened afterwards? I’m OOTL
This article
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When you bring back to life those two people he murdered I will.
And didn’t he maim someone? Took the life that person could have had.
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In that case I won’t stop mentioning it. You know my terms.
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I’m really enjoying the schadenfreude.
Another “family values” type doesn’t seem to give a shit about his own family. Bet he has strong opinions on abortion though.
I don’t think he ever said anything about family values
Isn’t the right all about “family values?” Being “good” christians and whatnot? It goes with the territory.
You’re just mindlessly pigeonholing. You may be right, but it’s childish black and white thinking.
what? there are plenty of right-wing atheists, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc
So, you a bot? You replied twice and neither make sense if you read my comment…
Yeah you a bot.
You claimed being right wing was limited to something unrelated to it. 2 responses because I didn’t know if one was uploaded because of crappy internet. But sure continue to believe a conspiracy about everyone who disagrees with you.
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There are plenty of right wing atheists…
All right wingers support the imposition of the right’s hypocritical version of Christianity regardless of their personal beliefs.
wdym?
Can you name a prominent right wing Atheist
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Why do they have to be prominent?
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Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Hayek, and many more
- So people know their actual views semi widely, wouldn’t matter at all if you said “I have friends” as we have no way to look into their beliefs.
I love how the only three names you could come up with were dead people.
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Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Michael Shermer.
All prominent atheists, all decidedly right-wing. If you want to include dead atheists, then I’d also say Christopher Hitchens was decidedly right wing on a lot of issues.
Richard Dawkins is definitely NOT right wing lmao
Sam Harris is NOT right wing
I don’t know Michael Shermer, but he states he’s fiscal conservative but social liberal, I’m not sure I’d count that as “decidedly right wing” either.
…Have you been paying attention to Dawkins in the last decade? The dude is decidedly anti-trans, anti-woke. Harris has been on the side of Republican foreign policy for decades, even if he’s more socially permissive. Shermer is the same kind of anti-LGBTQ anti-woke as Dawkins.
Albinos exist also, what’s your point?
The overwhelming majority of right wing nutters are christian cultists.
Yes there are. And most of them vote for conservative Democrats
Ok? Also, source?
What atheist supports the theists in the far right Republican party?
Famous atheists support Democrats.
So much down votes but zero rebuttal…
It seems facts hurt some people around here. Really wouldn’t want them getting in the way of a good circle jerk.
Kyle Murderhouse is a far right pos. The far right constantly cries about family values.
reply said, “I don’t think” as in they don’t actually know. Something like a cited source might help and receive actual conversation or else it’s just fluff much like your conjecture. It’s easy to assume his “family values” from the rightwing conservative aspect and being a member of the “Proud boys” and all. But please, continue the inner circle jerk you’ve started.
It’s easy to assume his “family values”
Thanks, champ!
This summarized the entire thread lol
Something like a cited source might help and receive actual conversation
what. you’re asking me to give a source for a negative. do you expect me to chronicle every word he’s ever said to show he never said the words family values. will you do the same to confirm what I said?
being a member of the “Proud boys”
this statement is untrue and I do have a source for it, or as best as you can get for proving a negative.
Everyone’s favorite game show: Child, Senior, or Foreign Agent?
You really posted a nexstar/Mission Media article as a source to defend a right wing ignoramus. It’s like poetry. Get a shred of media literacy, please.
The author of the article really doesn’t matter when the quote is true…
The author of the article really doesn’t matter when the quote is true…
Supply Side Jesus says they should just lift themselves up by their bootstraps.
Wow it’s almost like Kyle Rittenhouse might be a piece of shit.
What does the lesbian chick in the photo have to do with this Kyle guy or his family?
Haha. You’re my people. For real.
No problem. Just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.
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Their complaint is that he isn’t sharing his murder tour money.
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Well what exactly did they do for him? Maybe next time they’ll be a little more hands on with the murdering so they get their fair share!
I genuinely hate that this is accurate… This is 2024, everyone. Please vote against Trump by selecting “Biden” this November. You don’t have to like Biden, you just have to understand that if we don’t, our country is fucked.
Welfare republicans.
That’s redundant
Have they tried getting a job?
Work across state lines murkin folks is slow now maybe if trump wins again.
Yeah. Riiiight. He’s a giver.
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Lmao!!
Fucking on point for a republican.
He has truly made it.
