The war wasn’t fought to stop genocide of any group, it was because Germany and their allies kept invading and attacking other countries.
This is what I’m complaining about.
People learn a feel good version of why WW2 happened in school and run with it. But it’s not really that accurate, it’s just what we tell kids in school.
Probably easier to stick with “at the very least, freed them”.
Pearl Harbor was the rallying cry that brought America together (mostly) to fight the Axis powers. Prior to that, isolationist (and Anti-Semitic) groups such as the America First Committee were growing in popularity. To say America was fighting for the Jews in WW2 may be technically correct based on who was responsible for the Holocaust, but it was more the byproduct of who America’s enemies were at the time, rather than being a primary motivator. Coming in as the savior to a population being persecuted is rarely the real reason wars are fought.
Jewish people made up about half the victims, and was the only demographic who then got their own country given to them after it was stolen from the indengious population.
The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable. And stolen? They lost a world war.
The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable
Hold up…
You don’t think Africa has any indigenous populations?
You think a random collection of Europeans can say they deserve that land and take it?
Like, that’s apartheid South Africa mate… Even modern South Africa doesn’t defend that anymore, which is why they’re fighting Israel in the courts today.
And stolen? They lost a world war.
What?
Are you saying that you think the native population of Israel fought with the Nazis?
Who told you that?
I don’t think you’re intentionally spreading misinformation, but that’s what you’re doing even if you somehow believe it
Not only are you unaware of the Ottoman Empire and its role in the World War 1 but you also forget that said land has been controlled by almost a dozen different empires several of which wipe out the previous inhabitants and installed their own.
When Rome first took it over, yeah, lots of people (Jewish and otherwise) were killed. But they werent just Jewish, they were also descended ethnically from people who had lived there for centuries.
Converting to a religion doesn’t magically change your ethnicity…
But that’s the only way what you’re saying makes any sense.
The jews were also maligned by both sides.
One side fought for them. Or, at the very least, freed them when they won.
What?
The war wasn’t fought to stop genocide of any group, it was because Germany and their allies kept invading and attacking other countries.
This is what I’m complaining about.
People learn a feel good version of why WW2 happened in school and run with it. But it’s not really that accurate, it’s just what we tell kids in school.
So, as I said, at the very least they were freed?
Probably easier to stick with “at the very least, freed them”.
Pearl Harbor was the rallying cry that brought America together (mostly) to fight the Axis powers. Prior to that, isolationist (and Anti-Semitic) groups such as the America First Committee were growing in popularity. To say America was fighting for the Jews in WW2 may be technically correct based on who was responsible for the Holocaust, but it was more the byproduct of who America’s enemies were at the time, rather than being a primary motivator. Coming in as the savior to a population being persecuted is rarely the real reason wars are fought.
And the only demographic of victims to get their own country…
To get them out of europe. Anti-semitism was not a purely german thing, they were just the first to resort to genocide.
No, they were not the first. They just the ones who did it so thoroughly we came up with a name for it.
Yes…
I’m sorry, what are you confused about?
Jewish people made up about half the victims, and was the only demographic who then got their own country given to them after it was stolen from the indengious population.
The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable. And stolen? They lost a world war.
Hold up…
You don’t think Africa has any indigenous populations?
You think a random collection of Europeans can say they deserve that land and take it?
Like, that’s apartheid South Africa mate… Even modern South Africa doesn’t defend that anymore, which is why they’re fighting Israel in the courts today.
What?
Are you saying that you think the native population of Israel fought with the Nazis?
Who told you that?
I don’t think you’re intentionally spreading misinformation, but that’s what you’re doing even if you somehow believe it
Not only are you unaware of the Ottoman Empire and its role in the World War 1 but you also forget that said land has been controlled by almost a dozen different empires several of which wipe out the previous inhabitants and installed their own.
They didn’t just wipe out the people who lived there and move in new people…
Large scale immigration didn’t start happening till ethe mid 1800s when ethically European and Jewish people started immigrating enmass.
Partly because the Ottoman empire was friendly to ethnic and religious minorities.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusalem
When Rome first took it over, yeah, lots of people (Jewish and otherwise) were killed. But they werent just Jewish, they were also descended ethnically from people who had lived there for centuries.
Converting to a religion doesn’t magically change your ethnicity…
But that’s the only way what you’re saying makes any sense.