• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      Good news: take up subsistence farming, no healthcare, no electricity, and make everything yourself, and you too can have half the year “off”.

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          I mean the reality was that the time “off” was spent farming their own land, taking care of animals, fixing the house and doing the insane number of household tasks that come with premodern living. Spend a few days just cooking in a medieval style, and you’ll quickly realize it’s a LOT of work.

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            Meh,

            • They had horrible healthcare they couldn’t afford and WE have horrible healthcare we can’t afford
            • They spent a lot of time at festivals and with their communities helping each other and WE spend a lot of time chatting on our phones, but mostly playing games.
            • They spent a lot of time outdoors doing a lot of work but keeping active, and we can sometimes go for hikes or walks, but we’re Americans, we as a whole, don’t.
            • They knew how an could fix things around the farm, we can watch youtube videos unless it’s electronic or DRM.
            • They had witch hunts and misinformation and WE have witch hunts and misinformation.
            • All of the food they grew was organic but they had to grow it themselves and we have to pay an arm and a leg for non-poisoned food.
            • They spent all day working for the king and we spend all day working for billionaires.
            • They have poor starving people during famines, we have a too big percentage of poor starving people (13% of US population was food insecure during 2023).
            • They had xenophobia and WE have xenophobia.
            • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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              All of the food they grew was organic

              Without someone inspecting the water and the soil, how safe was it? ♪♫ Hello typhoid my old friend… ♫♪

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                Except for that, yeah. We still have listeria outbreaks, etc. that kill people. It’s not like we’ve moved on from that, and that’s with all of the poisoned food to make it “safer.”

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              When you delve into the details of what those bullet points actually entailed, they were all far far worse in medieval times.

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              And gathering your own firewood, and water, and making twice as much to prepare for winter, and the strongly reduced options.

              I mean yeah, it IS fun for a bit, I do medieval reenactment, obviously I enjoy it. But doing it every day absolutely sucks.

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          Plenty of places you can do this. Put “homesteading” into a search engine of your choice and you’ll get more information on the topic than you can handle.

          You’ll also pretty quickly realize its a very hard, tedious life and we have it pretty good in many ways in the modern world.

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          Gotta buy land first. Like 10 acers if you want to grow most of your own food.

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        So you think in order for people to not work their lives away we would have to take up subsistence farming? With all the tech and machines we have the only viable way to not be a company man is to give away all of the luxuries we currently have?

        How’s that Kool aid tasting?

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          That’s not remotely close to what I think the world SHOULD BE like.

          It is, unfortunately, what I think the world IS like.

          I’m also pointing out that if you want that aspect of the middle ages, you can have it right now by also taking all the crappy aspects of the middle ages…

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        Depending on the state and one’s farming capabilities, some people could already be halfway there! At least part of the year

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          Netherlands. Thailand and Morocco are even worse I guess. There, you’ll get punished harshly for beinig openly anti-monarchy. I feel sorry for those countries.

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            The Dutch monarchy isn’t too harsh on lèse-majestè, though I did shift from monarchist to republican almost overnight when our king said that “if you as a civil servant don’t like the far-right party PVV ruling, then you should be free to look for work elsewhere.”

            Well gee it’s not that easy for everyone to get accepted in work if you get discriminated, and gee, you need money due to this stupid capitalist system. While all the king does is look pretty and pay less tax… any person in the top 10% of their economy should pay way more.

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              This is untrue, you can drive if you have autism. However, formally you’d have to undergo an extra “examination” which in practice is a 5 minute talk that’ll cost €300, oh and, you have to pay it yourself.

              Even driving instructors tell you it’s bullshit and won’t bat an eye for not doing that.

              If you get found out of not having done this examination, and an accident occurs, however, then the police may be an ass. Which is bullshit as there’s your medical diagnosis, and autism should by itself not have consequences for driving ability. Dementia however…

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                Well, I know of at least one person who’s choosing not to get diagnosed as a direct result of that policy.

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    My non-joke answer is apprenticeship. Kids could actually learn how to do a valuable job rather than graduating from high school with almost no useful skills.

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      Imagine a king fighting his own battle, wouldn’t that be a sight…

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        On Sep 7, 1944, a group of American pilots was tasked with bombing a radio tower at Chichijima Island in the Pacific theater. The Japanese resistance was strong, and many American planes were shot down. Eight pilots managed to parachute to the ground safely but were caught by the Japanese.

        The Japanese military tortured them and then brutally executed them, in at least one case forcing the prisoner to dig his own grave before killing him. After the prisoners were executed, the Japanese cannibalized them, not due to lack of rations but to show “fighting spirit”.

        A ninth pilot parachuted away that day. The Japanese sent small boats out to try to capture him, but American airplanes arrived to force the Japanese boats back. The pilot was swimming in the open ocean far from any nearby ships when an American submarine suddenly breached the water in front of him and rescued him.

        That pilot then went on to become the 41st President of the United States.

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    Guillotines obviously.

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    Cloaks would be cool. I know that’s more of a fantasy aesthetic than a medieval one but they are cool enough that it shouldn’t matter.

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      As I understand it, the trebuchet is technically a catapult, I think you are trying to undermine it by referring to the lowly mangonel which is certainly inferior.

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        If my Age of Empires knowledge serves, you can just crank out a pantload of mangonels and start blasting before the trebuchets have time to set up and reduce your town to rubble