Because they operate in bad faith and cannot be trusted.
This is true, but I think it’s even more simple than this.
They want a specific guy to win.
While we want specific policies to win.
If I wanted specific policies to win there’s nobody available to vote for. Unless you think “the one viable option that isn’t theocratic fascism or a reich” is a policy, since that’s what I’m voting for this year.
pretty much. not that simplified but if the hill you wanna die on is less rights vs more rights, here we go.
The authors of Project 2025 need a malleable president for their agenda. Trump is perfect in that regard. He will sign bill that lands on his desk.
Bonus: should Trump die, JD is way more keen on the 2025 agenda.
Jesus fucking christ Lemmy has jumped the shark.
We criticized Biden because we wanted a shot at winning and he didn’t have one.
Trump as an opponent is the best shot Democrats have for winning. He’s deeply unpopular.
It’s shocking ho idiotic takes like this are.
They’re obviously talking about republicunts talking about Biden’s age. No one’s talking about you.
You’d understand it too once you stop being a perpetual victim.
Oh I assure you, they are punching left.
Literally the opening line:
To the pundits and the Republicans who
You did that, sure. Our pals on lemmy.ml et al have different motives.
For clarity, are you suggesting that everyone who had qualms with Biden’s age was operating in bad faith?
Everyone who had qualms about Biden’s age and yet not trump’s is operating in bad faith.
I can’t speak for everyone, but why exactly would I care about Trump’s age? It’s certainly a liability for him, but I was never going to vote Republican anyway, whereas my likelihood of voting Democrat has only risen now that Joe has stepped down. Why on earth would I want to potentially inspire Republicans to start pushing for a more competent candidate who might have a better chance of being elected, while also beingore competent and able to do more harm if they were to win?
For media outlets reporting on this, sure, but I think you’re being overly general when talking about individual voters expressing reservations about the candidate being pushed by the party they will, in all likelihood, wind up voting for.
And that’s pretty much everyone in mainstream media
And the Genocide Joe canvassers on lemmy
As far as I can tell, outside opinion columnists this position is entirely hypothetical.
That’s because the ones acting in bad faith got exactly what they wanted, and are on on to a new project. They aren’t going to keep asking for Biden to step aside when he already has.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don’t really care if they got what they wanted when the result is that way more voters are way more hyped about voting against Trump. The people who were convinced Biden was destined to be re-elected if he went up against Trump again were delusional and putting way more people at risk by demanding everyone shut up, fall in line, and be grateful they were giving us a not-Trump to vote for.
They were as braindead as Biden. They didn’t want to think.
Ironically, the new project is complaining he did step aside.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If Trump wants to keep running agains Biden I will happily watch that allow Kamala to beat him handily.
Almost like their entire lives are dedicated to shitposting…
The same ones who prevented Trump from winning were operating in bad faith? Seriously… it was the Democrats complaining saying he should step down. Why on earth would Democrats want Republicans to pick a new candidate now? Do you thinking helping Republicans somehow helps your side?
Wait, the people who criticized Joe Biden or the people who are claiming nobody has criticized Trump for his age?
Seems like this whole thread is just rage-bait.
People need to start talking about a possible President Vance. If Trump wins, it is a near certainty that he will die or be declared unfit within a year or two at most. If that were to happen, Vance will become president. Project 2025 would have Vance’s full support and the support of the Federalist Society and the backing of billionaires like Thiel and Musk.
Sadly, Trump’s Klan enthusiast father lived to 93.
In addition to Reagan effectively destroying the nation, he and his enabler wife Nancy kept his Alzheimer’s decline quiet so he could complete his second term to protect muh legacy. Being declared unfit requires your own cabinet turning on you, that requires appointing people of integrity to begin with.
Not only could we be governed by someone deep into senility. We already have.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-president-son
Project 2025 is so dystopian. I am somewhat triggered by it. Realistically I think anyone should oppose it with any fiber of their body, on the other hand, living in a cyberpunk hell is so romantic&cool in movies, games and books (it won’t be in real live). Hard to understand how any sane person would support shit like that.
Hi. I’m here. Trump is too old and demented to be president. Just like biden.
The difference is the right doesn’t care. Because they know it doesn’t matter who is in office. Either way they get everything they want.
Edit: and arguably everyone who was actually concerned about biden and not just a republican shill is now happily voting Harris.
If trump is elected they’ll get president Vance once he has Trumped declared incompetent
Oh god. That would be the most cursed timeline.
The couches in the oval office won’t survive.
republicans will never admit to anything ever, not one instance has a republican EVER admitting to fault in ANY scenario.
Similarly, pretty much every accusation from every Republican can be interpreted as a confession
be careful, they’re going to say this about democrats now, it’s literally the only thing they do.
On Hexbear and .ml seething that Trump isn’t going to win.
Fuck Hexbear, Russian trolls, and tankies everywhere.
Be careful, some people from there will bring up one thread where they called Putin a far-right fuckface!
You mean, evidence?
Yeah. Anecdotal evidence. The exception, not the rule.
You know, critical thinking?
If you say that someone thinks / says something, without any evidence, and I bring evidence of the contrary, I think this is far from being anecdotal.
We aren’t talking about a person, we’re talking about a community.
If one person in a community condemns Putin while the rest of the community peddles his talking points, that person is the exception. Their contributions prove nothing about the community.
This kind of evidence only works in the aggregate.
Oh no I was using a person as a metaphor. Just replace person with community.
Okay, then the proper criticism is that you’re a liar, typical of MLs. 🤷♂️
Want to change your argument again, or are you going to give up?
.ml here, I hope he goes to prison for a very long time.
Granted I knew nothing of the differences between .ml, hexbear, etc at the time I joined, and still kinda don’t. To be fair I question what the hell im doing half the time anyway lmao.
Maybe someone that is a little more involved in the different servers could shine some light? Cause man I get frustrated seeing some of the stuff I do, even when I try to tailor my feed to certain subs it still bleeds through lol.
.ml is run by tankies. They ban people for criticizing China and Russia.
I just joined an instance that was towards the top of the list, I didn’t do any research into the difference between them.
Tankies like Trump? I thought they favored that one woman, unfortunately her name escapes me at this moment.
Jill the Spoiler Candidate Stein? Of course they’d like her, she’s in bed with the Russian government.
Thank you, that’s her.
de la cruz
The baseball player?
Tankies like whatever is bad for America or good for Russia with no other considerations. Trump is bad for America and good for Russia.
I do understand Tankies are generally anti-America but your logic of them being anti-American and thus pro-Trump doesn’t fit for what I see on Lemmy.
What are you on about? As a mainliner hexer we would be happy to see Trump not living, just look at the response when he was shot or got covid.
Yes, we wish the fascist is dead, but the things we talk about will put the fascists in power. Somehow putting the fascist in power will definitely end up killing them and not giving them everything they ever wanted. Trust us.
Add this account to the victims of communism tally. One gorillion and one!
… I don’t think anyone on .ml is mad about Trump not winning. And yeah, Trump is too old. Of course Biden was worse, but Trump’s cognitive abilities are also not good enough to lead a country.
I don’t think lemmy.ml is full of tankies
I just know that tankies are explicitly allowed all over ML
And they do love Trump
>“.ml doesn’t have terrible people”
>has an .ml account.
😐
Hey, I’m sorry I didn’t get a PhD in “Lemmy instance vibe checking” before I chose to go for the devs’ instance.
Fuck Trump, and fuck generalizing tribalism.
That’s a ridiculous oversimplification of what I said, but go on
The simplification is ridiculous because the statement itself was too.
What’s ridiculous with what I said?
The majority of people who objected to Biden were Democrats that wanted a better candidate because we were afraid that Biden would lose to Trump. The majority of Republicans can’t conceive of a universe where Trump ever loses an election so there hasn’t been an equivalently loud push on the GOP side.
Also, while I’d personally rather Trump be off the ballot entirely a fair chunk of democratic voters seem to think we’re better off with Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
Basically, this article is drawing an equivalence between two very different situations.
Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
I REALLY would hate to see a Harris v Haley election.
Harris would have it in the bag. Haley is a true believer in pro-life policies in a way that would really turn off independents. Haley is an absolutely awful national candidate and can only really thrive in regions where Christianity has a death grip on the electorate.
Trump’s agnosticism is actually one of his political strengths - it should be a weakness with his base but for some reason he’s viewed as the second coming of jesus fucking christ and I really don’t understand how the fuck those delusional religious folks managed to square that in their mind. Especially when it was Biden vs. Trump with Biden being a deeply religious and non-shitty Catholic.
The GOP is seriously unhinged right now… and every GOP politician who has called that out has been instantly destroyed… that’s actually another contrast of this article - Pelosi openly and really fucking brazenly called for Biden to step down, Johnson, Scalise… fucking McCarthy? Those clowns would never dare because unless they act as a group it’s political suicide.
for some reason he’s viewed as the second coming of jesus fucking christ and I really don’t understand how the fuck those delusional religious folks managed to square that in their mind.
That’s the neat part, they don’t. Cognitive dissonance is one helluva drug
Would the main MAGA group shift to support her? I don’t think you can just switch out cult leaders like that. How would she do with policy vs. Harris? What would be fascinating is having a race where someone is going to be the first woman President, regardless, so that is removed from the reasons for voting for them - which it shouldn’t be…I want someone who can be a leader, period. And for what it’s worth, Trump could have been a leader (not a great one, but one still), he got a few chances during his term, even soft ball ones. And he failed them all.
I also love the implication that it somehow wouldn’t be a massive waste of time for Democrats to go tell Trump he’s too old to run. Like how worthless is your time if you’re gonna spend it barking up the worlds dumbest tree. If I wanted to be ignored, I’d at least ask for something like no longer selling weapons to nations credibly accused of genocide.
Because Biden is a boring president.
He had no controversies, He said no outrageous things. The worst thing Biden ever did was show up, heavily jetlagged, to a debate, and still managed to perform decently in it (despite what the mass hallucination the media has incited would have you believe)
He did his job, he did it well.
And because of that, people didnt turn into broadcast media in droves to see the latest tidbits on what he had done. So ratings, and viewership, and profit declined for broadcast media.
Which is why they love and want another Trump presidency.
Because he is always saying something horrible, doing something horrible, has some new horrible controversy, almost every fucking day.
Things that drive people to turn to the news every day and watch, in numbers that havent been seen since 9/11, and those numbers endured for 4 years of presidency.
The Broadcast Media is addicted to trump, and will stop at nothing to ensure they can continue hit their drug of choice every. single. day. multiple times a day, if possible. and the best way to do that is to whitewash everything he does and says, and go after his opponents with an aggression that is worthy of lawsuits, to ensure he can be president again and give them those ratings, viewership and income again.
So I’m thinking out loud here and this is probably going to be controversial … But what if Harris took on a comedian (or an oaf) as communications director, to purposely do gaffes and create controversies, so maybe the for profit media might like her more. Basically a modern court jester.
I always thought things like Sean Spicer hiding in the bushes were very funny. A bit embarrassing for sure, but also pretty funny.
what if she just hires Sean Spicer
His senility is the smallest problem when it comes to Trump.
I thought his smallest problem was his hands
Let’s be very Frank with you, republicans want that. Not the rank and file, but the politicians that want control over the United States.
What they want from Trump is a rubber stamp to do whatever they want.
I don’t even think it’s that deep, americans treat politics like football and they just want their team to win.
Sucking trumps Dick
I don’t understand why Trump can’t be happy to be one of the few people to have been a president. Why must he do it again?
Now, let him retire. He have the money. He is already famous. Just let him go in peace to the prison…
Probably because he’s done so much illegal shit his only hope is to regain the presidency so he has some immunity until either the various cases and charges get dismissed or he’s simply old enough that he can ride out the clock and die either too senile to know he’s under house arrest or die before he could start a prison sentence
The need for legal immunity is what sent Ceasar to March on rome.
Are people really just now realizing he’s barely coherent? That’s why he got so much coverage 9 years ago in the first place. It’s been the #1 joke every fucking day for night show hosts since he rolled down that escalator to say Mexicans are rapists.
Covfefe
Ombamna… 🥺
DRUMPF said covfefe 😂😂😂😂😂 #resist #smallhands
Obummer likes Dijon #birther #hesblack #ODS
Tan suit, chinese bow, latte salute
We didn’t start the fire
Obviously this guy can read and write. So we can safely assume he’s completed at least 1st and 2ns grades …
They never cared that about Bidens age, they just needed something to dislike him for. Notice they don’t have any policies they talk about. They just say Biden opened the border and is letting everyone in and it’s all his fault. Ignoring all evidence that arrests/detainments/returns are up, meaning they clearly aren’t just letting everyone in.
No, just liberals. It’s literally just a sports game to them. This is one of their funniest sneers because it’s so obvious why leftists don’t give a shit about Trump.
The reason, for the liberals reading, is because Donald Trump is not the DNC candidate for President of the United States of America.
Crazy, I know.
Yes it’s the LEFT who treat it like sports, very normal and not delusional take
The bothsiderist media didn’t even bothsides things when both candidates were older. Now that only the Republican one is older, I have zero expectation of them asking why donnie is so old.
How old is he?
Did you even read the title? Jesus. He is 539.
Did he just age a year in 2 minutes?
First post didn’t appear for me and I couldn’t find it in post history so I posted again but forgot the number. Thanks for keeping me honest, m8.
The donor class doesn’t really care about Trump’s mental (and psychological) issues, and really don’t even care much about Trump at all. They’re not actually supporting him - they’re supporting the handlers and advisers with which they intend to surround him, and the policies (and primarily Project 2025) that they intend to enact through him.
If anything, his incoherence is, to them, a benefit, since he’s just that much easier to manipulate. Since he can’t form a coherent thought on his own, he can be readily filled up with someone else’s ideas, just so long as they’re framed correctly.
He’s like a wind-up toy - all they have to do is feed him carefully crafted stories and get him wound up and pointed in the right direction, then just let him go.
If anything, his incoherence is, to them, a benefit, since he’s just that much easier to manipulate. Since he can’t form a coherent thought on his own, he can be readily filled up with someone else’s ideas, just so long as they’re framed correctly.
This is pretty much what was going on in the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush too. I’m so sick of sharing a country with people who eagerly elect feeble-minded puppets… I guess because they find them relatable.
Nothing is disqualifying for a Republican candidate for president.
Except maybe, I dunno, having a plan for healthcare or housing affordability or something.
He’s had a plan for healthcare (dismantling it) for nine years and did jack shit.
He has concepts of a plan.
Making any decision that helps citizens at the expense of the corporations and the wealthy would be disqualifying.
Those will all be coming 2 weeks after Election Day I’m sure.
I thought that was infrastructure week.
No, that was infrastructure weak.
It’s not just Republicans, but Republicans are notorious for their universal double standards that only one without shame can have.
To varying degrees, every single person has things in their life that they like, and no amount of accurate, undeniable, objective, information about it being bad/wrong/inefficient etc will change their mind unless they decide they want to.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans, which is a large part of why they now have a God king who wears diapers and has more fingers than functional brain cells.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans
What are they? This guy literally tried to overthrow the government. He openly courts Russian influence in elections. He openly admits to being easily corrupted and persuaded by individual campaign donors to the point of changing his entire position on the basis of what companies they own. He has been convicted of felonies. He has been convicted of fraud. He has been found in court to have sexually assaulted women. He had his charity organization shut down due to fraud. Many of his attorneys can no longer practice law because of the things he had them attempt in courtrooms. He conspired to bring fake electors to Washington DC. He sent love letters back and forth with a North Korean dictator. He bragged about assassinating a murder suspect in the Pacific Northwest. He’s incontinent. He’s unintelligible. He was impeached twice. He said “we’ll take the weapons first and then do process later”. He said of John McCain “I like people who weren’t captured”. He fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then he paid the porn star off to cover up the story during the election. He mocks disabled reporters. He smells like a full diaper. He said he can “grab women by the pussy” because he is a star. He sold beans from the oval office because a Goya executive said they supported him. He called Nazis “very fine people”. He told the American public that “they’re looking into” injecting disinfectants in order to cure COVID. He refused COVID testing and then went on-stage for a planned debate with an active case of it. He wanted a military parade. During the passage of his meager working-person tax cut, he forced the US treasury to attach his signature to the checks. He’s fundamentally weird and never appears to laugh or ever even tell a coherent joke. He rarely even smiles. He likely gave secret documents to the Russians. He and his family used private email servers continually despite pretending that his political opponent deserved to be in jail for doing so. He complains constantly about the state of the country whether or not he is leading it. He does not appear to have a single friend in the world. Everyone who works with him winds up regretting it. He goes on strange rants where he speaks as if “the late great Hannibal Lecter” is or was an actual person that died. He lies about his mental and physical health. The list goes on and on and on.
Yet despite all of that…HE IS THE GOP NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.
The guy is a walking version of “the aristocrats” joke.
As far as I can tell a disqualifying trait for the Democratic candidate for President is looking too old or letting out a “BYAAAAW” at a campaign event. So this isn’t exactly a “both sides” type of thing. One party’s candidates have to walk on water to barely win, while the other’s continually rack up absolutely absurd would-be dis-qualifiers and continue to be taken seriously by the media, the government, and the public.
A Republican isn’t gonna read that wall of text and neither am I, because it doesn’t matter.
Everything and more you listed Trump does doesn’t matter to his voters, because he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list, so anything else is irrelevant.
he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list
He’s going to be pro-industry, pro-oligarchy, and pro-rich people. He’s going to do whatever the moneyed interests in the country (and the globe for that matter) want him to do.
That’s the entire Republican Christmas list. As long as he does that, they don’t care about what he says or does and they’ll paper over all of it on their news network.
You’re confusing rich Republicans who benefit from Trump, and the poor/middle class who get absolutely nothing but racisim and Christianity.
The super wealthy bankroll everything and get all the rewards + power.
But the votes that put him in office are 95% from people who will be hurt by deregulation, crushed by increased taxes (that pay for the racisim and forced Christianity), and want the freedom to openly hate anything they don’t like (which they believe was woked away from them).
The idiots who will be crushed by Trump the hardest are his biggest fans.
You’re confusing rich Republicans who benefit from Trump, and the poor/middle class who get absolutely nothing but racisim and Christianity.
And you’re confusing “the base” with people whom the Fox News and rich people apparatus more generally don’t have any control over.
The federalist society and other “think tanks” decide the actual agenda. Trump is just the talking head at the center of it. When he’s dead and buried it’s not like they’re going to start advising people to vote for Democrats.
The reason none of these (sometimes very serious) things sink him is because the media constantly gives him a pass on all of it.
He’s their mascot. He’s shown himself to be friendly enough to corporate interests that he’s allowed to continue being that mascot. They still need one that’s at least popular enough to enliven some of the dead as disco voter demographics they need to get into office and obtain power.
Once he’s elected again their plan is to “fix it so good” that nobody will have to ask for votes anymore, because at least what they want (and they might get it) is to be able to disenfranchise, cheat, and abuse their way to victory and extinguish democracy altogether.
Look at the states they govern, for example, North Carolina is already considered “not a democracy” by some international watchgroups because of the gerrymandering and other tactics used to control the outcome of elections there. They want to go national with that.
