*advancing her career

https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3ldhxclo4wk2c

This is about AOC losing her bid for the Oversight committee to a geriatric Dem lifer. Sure she has systematically shredded any last bit of credibility with her triangulation, but hey, at least all the 5D polítical chess is paying off! She’s changing the system from the inside! It’s working this time!

Girl, you abandoned any pretense of doing working-class mass politics when you decided to do insider politics! Why are you tweeting like Bernie Sanders circa 2012? There’s no we! There’s no mass movement behind you! It’s just NYC DSA and some Warren libs (but I repeat myself)

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    hey man dunno about you but I don’t spend every day bitching about shit. got things to do. And no she hasnt, she just doesn’t waste time on shit she can’t change beyond pointing it out. just because you’re intractable doesn’t mean everyone is.

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      hey man dunno about you but I don’t spend every day bitching about shit.

      Liberals and casual misogyny, name a more iconic duo

      the more iconic duo

      Liberals and lack of all introspection

      Buddy you are literally arguing with a bunch of people online that they aren’t sufficiently appreciative of AOC. You’ve spent hours writing pages of responses. I do not believe you at all.

      got things to do.

      I find that hard to believe too.

      And no she hasnt

      Fantastic retort, argh I am debunked.

      she just doesn’t waste time on shit she can’t change beyond pointing it out

      She’s not going to write you back pal.

      just because you’re intractable doesn’t mean everyone is.

      If it were me I wouldn’t have been ride or die for biden, voted for genocide, used immigrant camps as a photo op, shamed people for wanting action on palestine, voted for giving more aid to Israel, stopped agitating against border camps, but I’m just built different.

      For someone who acts so smug and condescending, you’re really bad at exhibiting any valid reason for that attitude. You’re pretty obviously an ideological coward who flees when tasked with any interrogation of their own worldview.

      I could go on, but I won’t.

      You are deficient.

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        lol, my inbox blew up. I’m not wasting my time on all of you. get a clue. and frankly I dont need to. I’ve had my fun for the afternoon while coding and waiting on changes to propagate.

        And no, I havent said your not sufficiently appreciative of AOC, I’ve said you’re all assholes to a person who literally is probably the best rep you’re going to see that aligns with your core wants on worker owned means of production and strong safety nets as far as the US goes and not a single one of you has a realistic view of what shes done or why. But yes, tell me more about how she personally broke the strike and how its a violation of all things holy or how she personally is responsible for bidens child policy because she didn’t say ‘wtf’ every day for four years. or how shes pro genocide despite literally not being pro genocide.

        You’re literally just toxic fucks as a group. I just don’t mind stirring the nest on occasion to remind you of this fact. enjoy your evening. and no, I’m not introducing you twats to system dynamics, distributed systems, and its intersection with political theory. dear god thats literally a fucking seminar worth of work. plenty of people have already written about the mathematical weaknesses in both communism and capitalism I dont need to rehash it for people who cant even handle someone telling them ‘yo stop being shit stains to a person who has literally done you no harm’

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          I’m not introducing you twats to system dynamics, distributed systems, and its intersection with political theory. dear god thats literally a fucking seminar worth of work.

          You just seem to be laundering human nature arguments through oh-so-complicated-and-intelligent “systems theory”, which is the opposite of what systems theory is cuz systems theory actually wants to explain the behavior of systems based on their real internal or external relationships rather than appealing to some metaphysical concept. The sad thing is I actually believe that you may have picked this up from time at some kind of educational institution like you seem to be implying or, idk, maybe you just read a few Wikipedia pages like you keep posting at us lol

          plenty of people have already written about the mathematical weaknesses in both communism and capitalism I dont need to rehash it

          Which people are you referring to? Cuz even your references to distributed mathematical systems dynamics or whatever are so substanceless I have no idea what you’re talking about

          while coding and waiting on changes to propagate.

          he-admit-it

          Another case of STEM brain, folks, what a shame

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          incoherent whining instead of addressing any of the dozen cogent questions you have been given

          retreat, retreat, retreat. loser

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          “lol my inbox blew up” which is why you decided to start new arguments, yeah right buddy.

          and frankly I dont need to

          Who said you had to? For someone who likes to talk of reading comprehension you could really do with some yourself. I am using these people to exemplify how you’re really just a scared little guy, who can’t interrogate his own worldview.

          AOC is the best rep

          Have you seen anyone argue against this? The best rep is still absolute dogshit and I’m not gonna praise a turd no matter how much you polish it.

          But yes, tell me more about how she personally broke the strike

          Reading comprehension again. I did not say she personally did it. If you wish to do this smug routine, you really need to be able to relate to what was actually written. Otherwise you come off as being incompetent.

          how she personally is responsible for bidens child policy

          So we can both agree you’ve put in “personally” because you’re just unwilling to admit she’s complicit, right?

          You’re literally just toxic fucks as a group.

          OH NO SOMEBODY RESPONDS TO YOU IN KIND HOW HORRIBLE! We’re one of the most trans inclusive, ND inclusive, POC inclusive spaces online buddy. Our demographics show how this is actually a safe space for minorities of all kinds. We raise funds for people in need, we help each other organize and we have a pretty good vibe going. That vibe comes in part from not catering to redditors like you.

          I just don’t mind stirring the nest on occasion to remind you of this fact.

          Back at the “Oh I’m being obnoxious and wrong on purpose” I see. Yes you’re very not mad, we are all proud of you.

          I’m not introducing you twats to system dynamics, distributed systems, and its intersection with political theory.

          Because you can’t, it’s okay. I liked to throw big words around when I was a small child as well, wanted to feel grown up. Nobody has asked you to explain them, in fact you’ve been introduced to several people who already understand those concepts and wish to discuss them with you, which you have failed to do. That was why I included some of those people in the omnipost which you are replying to. You know this of course, you are just making a sad attempt at deflection here.

          dear god thats literally a fucking seminar worth of work.

          Making a basic explanation is really not that, but I guess one could think it was if one is still in high school.

          plenty of people have already written about the mathematical weaknesses in both communism and capitalism

          Name three works you’ve read.

          ‘yo stop being shit stains to a person who has literally done you no harm’

          Is that what you’re pretending your argument is now? Damn we started out at a completely different place, but this is what you want to pretend you’re saying now? Okie dokie, she has done me harm. She has supported border camps, crushed strikes and supported an ongoing genocide. These things have harmed me personally. Also calling someone out for being shitty is actually not “being a shit stain”, but I guess it could feel that way if you’re a spoiled child not used to being told no.

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      hey man dunno about you but I don’t spend every day [removed] about shit. got things to do.

      First of all, we don’t go for that sort of casual misogynistic language round here.

      Secondly, your dedication to dozens of replies, saying nothing, calling people names, and refusing to engage on any particular point would seem to indicate otherwise.

      And no she hasnt, she just doesn’t waste time on shit she can’t change beyond pointing it out.

      If she can’t change it, while having to actively support (in money, votes, PR, volunteer time etc) a collosal amount of destructive, regressive, and downright evil policy, what exactly is her worth?

      Why is it that liberals always frame ‘everything that could be done’ so narrowly that it’s actually ‘everything that could be done without the possibility of them recieving any kind of consequence or hinderence their advancement in that very system’? Why are your expectations so low that the possibility of damage to politicians continual professional success and ladder climbing (in a system you say is corrupt and they can’t effect change in) is somehow beyond the bounds of what’s possible? Why do you place a politician’s career progression beyond the important of the policies you supposedly believe in?