Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”

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    You know what??? NY will survive. We survived prior to the Revolution. We survived after the Revolution and before the Constitution. We will continue this… and honestly, the FEDS do fucking nothing for us and why do they deserve to be paid??? They are fucking loafing political lying fucks. Fuck them and fire them.

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    Oh but blue states not giving federal taxes over is “starting a civil war.”

    The civil war is already happening. Wake the fuck up people.

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      Or it’s not, and that’s the problem. The organised rightwing forces of state repression can easily push around a left that’s been trained and groomed to function as entirely beholden to corporate sponsors and big money donors.

      …to the point it’s now visible and blatant that the establishment left cannot stand and legitimately claim even the possibility they are the solution.

      Because the solution is something more revolutionary that will cause bloodshed and more regular interruptions to people’s daily lives.

      So of course, keep your head down, hope none of this effects you. Ignore that it already has. The dems will fix it later, ect…

      It’s understandable to ignore the civil war even though it’s not rational to.

      Terrorists (freedom fighters) are made as needed, they’re not born ready. Trump’s administration will be looking to stay under that threshold.

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          I had the same reaction. The US has two parties, a far right one and a center right one. There are some center left members in the Democratic Party but the rest of the party sure tries to smother them any chance they get.

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        rightwing forces of state repression can easily push around a left that’s been trained and groomed to function as entirely beholden to corporate sponsors and big money donors.

        That’s not a “left” at all. There are traditionally three groups that vie for power, royalty, merchants, and the people. The left serves the people, Democrats serve the merchants, and Republicans are the royalists.

        The Democrats may represent the left some day, but it’s not who they are right now.

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    This is how the president responds to the democratic process…

    I am so glad this guy is scaring the everloving fuck out of the right and the DINOs. I want a legion of folk just like him to run for office in every state and every office so we can sweep away the remnants of the old guard.

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    Mamdani won a mayoral primary, hasn’t even been elected yet and the hype on all sides is enormous.

    Really hope New Yorkers dig in and back this dude.

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      That would only work with like-minded politicians. Old Democrats have spent more energy complaining about Mamdani in the past month than Trump’s current presidential run.

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        I actually think that conservative journals like the WSJ have created the appearance that Democrats are anti-Mamdani, in an attempt to “divide and conquer” democrats.

        i actually see a surprisingly positive response to Mamdani from democratic movements all across the US.

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          Hey, I am an old Xer and have come to the realization that the reason we lost last election (other than the cheating but decentralized voting almost always wins over cheating)… is because we listened to those “Never Trump Republicans” and embraced the Cheneys and others. That was exactly the wrong tack. We should have embraced instead the Bernie/AOC and Elizabeth faction. That would have communicated to the people that we actually cared about their life circumstances in this post-Covid, war infected supply chain challenged economy. Let the New Economics/Distributist peeps inform us with some resilient strategies. We are Fucking Tired of the Old Ideas.

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          Bingo. The media is entirely captured, obviously, and people don’t understand what’s really going on as a result.

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        So… what you are saying is that it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those old fuckers need to retire and try to still appear wise… they are fucking failures and should know it.

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      I’m not sure how states could withhold money from the feds.

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        Hopefully he also makes more friends and helps gain momentum to get the rest of the goons out in other jurisdictions

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      I predict Mamdani and Trump will have similar arcs through the media landscape. The media hated Trump but just couldn’t stop paying attention to him, even though every time they attacked him it only made him stronger. Now they are all bending the knee to him.

      The same exact thing is happening with Mamdani, but this time for all the best reasons. Mamdani’s campaign might easily become a nationwide avalanche.

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        might easily become a nationwide avalanche

        Anecdotally, I have fairly non-political coworkers in other states that are hyping up Mamdani. His reach across Gen Z is honestly insane and people are even making TikTok/Instagram hype edits of him all the time

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        I kind of doubt that Zohran will have the same arc, since he’s campaigning directly against the vested interests of the owners of our major media outlets. I could see him becoming an outside force too large for them to ignore, who ultimately forces them to change tactics, though.

        At the moment, he’s an outlier of a candidate for them to try and beat down, and the mainstream media will fight tooth and nail to keep him that way, since him inspiring a broader insurgency of proper leftwing candidates to challenge “progressive” establishment Dems represents an existential crisis for them.

        A successful term as mayor for Zohran could well sound the death knell for them if it leads to either a Tea Party style takeover of the Democrats, or produces enough momentum to lead to a proper third party that unseats the Democrats from their position as the GOP-lite party of controlled opposition. Imagine what could happen if those media organizations had to face a properly funded public broadcasting service, for example, that gained broad purchase amongst the public.

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        Why would liberal media ever bow to a socialist? The capitalists will always understand socialism as a greater threat than fascism.

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          For the same reason they speak in reverence of Martin Luther King Jr. and pretend that liberals didn’t hate his guts back in the day.

          On a long enough time scale the left always wins, and liberals always pretend that they backed the left the whole time and claim the victory for themselves.

          “A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.”

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    How will the federal government move forward if California & New York withhold their federal taxes?

    New York & California are the real US’s incomes.

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    He is copying Orbán in Hungary. He also “starved” the capital city because they elected an opposition mayor. The city is near bankruptcy at the moment. But hey, mini Trump also wanted to ban the Pride march there last Saturday, and as a result he made it the biggest mass event of the past 10 years.

    So if things happen similarly, Trump might be able to actually do this, but it might just ruin his chances at the next election - provided there will be another one, according to him.

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    Lmao, damn, trump seems really scared of this guy.

    All the conservatives seem really scared of this guy.

    Wonder why republicans might be scared of Democratic candidates left of dead center. Almost like a real alternative not slobbering out neoliberal, Chicago school of economics, nonsense could sweep them in a lot of traditional safe seats.

    Or at least be really hard to rally their base against if their base actually hears what the policies are.

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    Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.

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      I’m so tired of people not telling this old bunch of shit sacks to fuck off. I’d have so much respect for any threatened tRump victim if they just told him the fuck off after shits like that.

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      Threatening to withhold money from a place that gives you the most money doesn’t seem like a smart idea.

      If New York and California don’t give them their money, the Federal Government isn’t going to have money to withhold.

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        That’s what abusers do, too. They will cut their own throats to make you squirm.

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    This shows that waiting to 2026 and hoping that Dems will take over Congress is really pointless. They won’t acknowledge and certify any results that aren’t their people.

    At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

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      We do not fight on their terms.

      They want battles in the streets. They want explosives, dead feds and cops.

      They want 258,000,000 dead Americans. They don’t give two shits what side it’s on.

      A Mayoral election giving the elite this much terror is extremely telling. The GOP didn’t work the top down, they worked the bottom up. Local governments, states, and the branches of the Federal government.

      If NYC can get this guy elected, then the doubt that fascists need to instill in the idea of democracy gets bolstered, and they have to do things that will be even more unpopular than kidnapping immigrants.

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      At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

      I really wish we could stop all the pussyfooting and just get to the actual open conflict portion on the program already. It’s obviously what both sides want at this point, let’s cut the shit and just do the fuckin thing already.

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        A frequent occurrence with forced regime change is trading out one evil for one or more worse evils. Check out Sudan’s history. It’s not at all easy to build a democracy, so the establishment is rightly hesitant to just scrap this one, as direly troubled as it is.

        Odds are we’re just going to coast BAU into oblivion.

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      For real. Imagine successful infrastructure and social welfare programs being carried out at the city level, with little or no involvement or oversight from the state or federal governments.

      Decentralization is what Republicans claim to be all about. Of course it’s a bullshit claim.

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        Small government only when the conservatives institute Christianity in school, ban abortion and sexual education and rob their constituents of everything they have.

        Big government when conservatives need to oppress minorities, fight wars in the Middle East and deport people.

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        The problem is, we would have a massive amount of people being totally abused in red states if federal laws didn’t exist.

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      The problem at this point isn’t Republican hypocrisy, this is a known thing, it’s every institution that supposedly has the duty to put checks and balances on it not doing that. Congress, the courts and the press are all complicit at this point. It’s not leaving the people many options.

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        Well, it’s republicans doing it. And let’s not both sides this, Aussie. There is a clear enemy.

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        You can check the mod logs for that, but in this case, the entire account’s comments appear to have been removed.

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    ok, taco. can’t wait for the day he walks this back and act like he’s on top of things