I’ve used VS Code for a long time, but have recently grown weary of Microsoft’s approach to OSS. I’ve checked out VS Codium which seems like it might be a great option.
What text editor are you using?
I use Neovim, LiteXL, and VS Codium depending on the project size and needs. no one tool suits all.
Ocasionally I use CherryTree, but normally the inbuild Markdown notepad of the browser
I tried it for about 5 minutes and didn’t see its appeal. It looked like a chore and not a help. I get really tired of needing to learn a bunch of new software. I need to get sh*t done instead.
Maybe after 6 min?
Your CherryTree is quite amazing :
3MBytes download, 11MB on HDD
creation and edition of multi-level documents (tree)
such document containing : source code, rich text, any web things,
inbuilt code execution, import from and export to many file formats,
… & much more ! thanks for the tip 😌It’s the best you can find in editors of this type. I know and use this editor since a lot of years
I don’t really do coding, the bulk of my text editing is from changing values in games. Sublime Text is great for that.
Sublime text still has better performance than nearly every other non console text editor out there. I remember someone did some testing and sublime lasted the longest before a crash on really large text files.
kakoune
Have been using Emacs for over a decade, and I’m fairly happy with it.
used vim for like twenty years and then switched to nano
(Note for those who downvoted me: Get a life, you weirdos. I’ll use whatever editor I want.)
Not downvoting but I’m puzzled. Why switching to nano? After 20 years of vim you probably are an advanced user. After getting some of the goodies of vim, I cannot understand how nano can be appealing. Care to elaborate?
Depends on the use case. I used to think nano was stupid too until I tried to use it for real, and I realized that it is among the best designed editors I’ve ever used. Yes, it is more simple and don’t offer all the functionality of vim. It might be able to do a couple things vim can’t, but I would have to double check on that. (Like emacs, nano can re-wrap hard-wrapped text to a specific width, which I’m not sure is easy to do in vim.)
For certain edits or tasks, vim might end up being more trouble than it’s worth.
downvotes here are so weird !
is vim a religion ?I guess so lol. I still use it when it’s the right tool for the job
You mean there’s something other than vim? The hell you say.
But isn’t VSCodium just a build of the Microsoft approach to OSS?
Or is that your way of referring to VSCode? I don’t even think of it as OSS…Personally, I mostly use Kate. Sometimes Vim for quick edits on the terminal or over SSH.
And at $DAYJOB, we use the JetBrains IDEs, which I hate in many ways, but they are competent IDEs, and definitely blow VS Code out of the water, if you want features.VScodium to VScode is as Chromium is to Chrome
I think VScodium is more like ungoogled-chromium than the actual chromium
Yeah, I know that. But much like with Chromium, it’s only technically open-source and you’re still eating whatever changes Microsoft/Google decide to include.
So, if it’s that what they mean with “Microsoft’s approach to OSS”, then VSCodium is no different.
it’s only technically open-source and you’re still eating whatever changes Microsoft/Google decide to include
Not sure I get the nuance, isn’t one always eating whatever changes the main developers decide to include?
Yeah, admittedly there is alot of nuance here.
The thing with VSCodium or Chromium is that the bulk of the development work comes from Microsoft/Google, and they provide additional infrastructure around these projects, built up a brand etc…
This means that these projects practically cannot be hard-forked (taking them into a different direction), you can at best soft-fork them to remove the worst of the worst (like e.g. ungoogled-chromium does), and such a fork would likely not gather many users either, even if it’s objectively better.That gives quite a lot of power to Microsoft/Google. For example, Chromium with its extension API ManifestV3, that wouldn’t even be up for discussion, if that was a community-lead project. The repo of the maintainer would get abandoned and everyone would contribute to a fork instead. With actual Chromium, though, not a chance of that happening.
This means that these projects practically cannot be hard-forked (taking them into a different direction)
I don’t understand the implication, what is it that makes a hard-fork impossible? In fact, isn’t Brave a hard fork of Chromium?
such a fork would likely not gather many users either
With actual Chromium, though, not a chance of that happening.
In my understanding, while the freedom of forking the project is certainly determinant in the question of whether it is open source, I don’t see any relevance in the one of creating a fork that can get popular enough to strip the original project of its users.
I don’t understand the implication, what is it that makes a hard-fork impossible? In fact, isn’t Brave a hard fork of Chromium?
Well, my definition of a hard fork is that you take the state of a project at a certain point in time and then you largely carry on development on your own. For example, LibreOffice was a successful hard fork from OpenOffice.
So, I don’t see Brave as a hard fork. They are very much dependent on Google continuing to open-source the Chromium code. And they don’t really have the capacity to make larger changes to the code base, or even just maintain the status quo, if Google decides to make changes that go against Brave’s interests.
In my understanding, while the freedom of forking the project is certainly determinant in the question of whether it is open source, I don’t see any relevance in the one of creating a fork that can get popular enough to strip the original project of its users.
Yeah, that’s why I wrote that they are technically open-source. They fulfill the official open-source definition, but they don’t match up with the subjective expectations that people often have for open-source.
So, for example, if you think of VLC, GIMP, KDE or other community-driven projects, they may be shit in one way or another, but they would never make a change with which the majority of the user base disagrees.
That’s what I personally think of when I hear “open-source” (although I have started calling it “community-driven”, to disambiguate it from those shitty open-source projects).So, I don’t see Brave as a hard fork. They are very much dependent on Google continuing to open-source the Chromium code. And they don’t really have the capacity to make larger changes to the code base, or even just maintain the status quo, if Google decides to make changes that go against Brave’s interests.
Ok, thanks for clarifying, I definitely don’t know enough about Brave’s developement to comment on that. Do you mean that Brave’s team wouldn’t even have the manpower to mantain security updates if they want to harder-fork? I still don’t really understand what is the difference between Chromium and say KDE about the possibility to hard-fork.
they may be shit in one way or another, but they would never make a change with which the majority of the user base disagrees.
I see, thanks again. Indeed “community-driven” is a better fit label for that state of affair !
This was already asked in !programming@lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.ml/post/53721
There is a big difference between an IDE and an editor!
An editor is much more simple, while an IDE offers complete project management and other tools!Yes and no. The answers to both questions overlap.
Can be, but don’t need.
The question in !programming@lemmy.ml assumes that the editor is used for programming. Here, however, the focus is on OpenSource and does not necessarily have anything to do with programming.Okay, and?
that post, 67 comments 1 year ago //
. . . . . summary (not complete) :
NeoVim ~10 users
vim more than 10
Emacs 4 or 5 ?
jetBrainz : like 2 or 3…
Kate : at least one
gedit : one !
nano : 1 or 2
vi : over ssh because nothing else on some servers, poor lad …can you install neovim on a server? Is it tiny/light?
Sorry, i am the wrong guy for this, i only have few hours reading on SSH. My programming : fortrand, basic, c, python, was sporadic for some projects over the years, never was my main job !
yes. I guess I thought that was how much storage it took up on a disk, but I’d like to know that before reading about what it does, how it works. Found this the other day and love it (for command line): │ps -eo cmd,%mem,%cpu --sort=-%mem | head No need to install anything on Debian to use it.
On Windows I have been using Notepad++, Nano on Linux.
Good old vim
acme from plan9port, emacs, sometimes vi depending on the situation.
There are dozens of us. Dozens!
“Acme: A User Interface for Programmers”
.1) it runs under Linux,
.2) it’s many “Windose” are not M$'s
First impression: somewhat like emacs?
Removed by mod
Kakoune but I’m considering switching back to Neovim
CudaText.
