“Fuck you. Help us! But also, fuck you.”
Somehow it reminds me of Bender.
Lets be honest, Republicans have the “Kill all humans” demo locked up.
“Bender, a turtle isn’t yourself. Why do YOU care about it?”
The difference is I’d trust Bender. At least more.
Help us get into position to fuck you some more.
Can you name one time that has happened?
Oh? Every time? It happens every time?
Wait, are you saying it literally happened like two weeks ago? Well shit.
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At this point I’m not sure why House republicans wouldn’t want Hakeem Jeffries as the Speaker. At least then they could run home to their constituents and pretend to be a united party that’s accomplishing nothing just because the Speaker is from the Democratic Party. Their base won’t care that they’re the majority party and would’ve had to let it happen. They’ll just accept that everything from here on out is “the democrat’s fault” as they always do anyways.
Whoever votes Jeffries would get primaried next election.
If 10 Republicans voted present or were conveniently occupied elsewhere, Jeffries would win.
They could not vote, but also there are purple districts where “I’m doing what’s best for the country” would play better than endless bickering.
Someone close to retirement could take one for the team?
take one for the team?
The GOP is the party of ruthless, naked selfishness, and Republicans have over and over and over again demonstrated that they’d rather let the entire nation descend into chaos than act against their own, personal self-interest.
I doubt anyone in the current GOP even knows what “taking one for the team” means.
I get where you’re coming from and I expect you to be right in the end, but considering how many established GOP douchebags spent four years kissing Trump’s ass after deriding Trump as an existential threat to the party, it think they definitely know how to degrade themselves in service to the PARTY. I don’t expect them to take one for the country, but they often are willing to do what works for the party
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How about go fuck yourself. You assholes made your own bed… Time to sleep in it. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching them eat each other.
Or we could use this opportunity. We can influence them into not only picking the lesser of evils, but leveraging the position to actually help the people of this country.
Let’s get them to actually work with us and do some damn governing for once.
That requires that all parties act in good faith, which the GOP has not done for decades.
Yeah, this is picking between which cancer you want to die from, not lesser evils. All the candidates the GOP are gonna put forward are somehow gonna be worse than McCarthy. Which is fucking ridiculous.
Vote brain eating amoeba for speaker.
You should watch BrainDead. You’ll never listen to You Might Think by The Cars the same ever again…
Just a thought, but maybe something like this
GOP and Dems agree to a list of concessions
GOP nominates Jeffries (or just have a few GOP congressmen be conveniently absent).
Concessions get passed.
Jeffries steps down.
Democrats nominate previously agreed on GOP speaker.
Republicans don’t hold up their end of the bargain, Jeffries just stays as speaker.
Dems don’t hold up their end of the bargain, GOP still has the majority so they can hold up any legislation.
The problem is that Republicans literally run “on the government is useless”. They don’t want to govern. They want power. They want to finish turning the government into an extension of our corporate overlords and cut any and all benefits, except corporate handouts.
This is what they want, but it’s a bad look since their voters might see exactly what they stand for. All they’ve done is hold meetings where they talk but nothing gets done. They’re using their committees to run interference for trump and poison the well for Biden like they did for decades with Hillary. Then scream deep state is holding us back. Fuck 'em. They have the majority, figure it out.
The thing is, there’s no power in being part of a paralyzed government.
Meh, they shouldn’t gerrymander the fuck out of districts allowing the craziest candidates to primary the ones that actually now compromise is part of governing.
Of course there is, as long as you are the one paralyzing the government. Suddenly you have incredible amounts of leverage, especially if your voters are fine with you keeping everything paralyzed.
You’re missing what I’m trying to say, though. If they want help (as this article is claiming), then we should leverage that.
I upvoted this comment but how would it be possible to hold the Republicans to an agreement? They already didn’t respect the agreement with Biden.
The problem is they will pretend they never did it anyway. The entire impetus for removing the last guy was he worked with Democrats lol
I’d want everything in writing before agreeing to anything. Even then, I’d fear that Republicans would go back on their word the second we passed this crisis.
Are there any purple Republicans in the House? Are there any that aren’t toe-ing the line and gargling MAGA Balls? Any that just want to do their job and being a moderate Speaker may look good to their moderate district?
No such thing
Every single NY Republican on Long Island is liable to flip without working across the aisle. The democrats drew a map that did not fly and the judge put a long time republican in charge of redrawing the map which let people like Santos win. It’s been ordered back to the committee to redraw again, and New York will lose R seats unless they show that they’re pretty far in the centrist direction.
Except not having a speaker is probably going to cause a shutdown which is going to hurt the people working for the government. This isn’t going to hurt who you think it hurts.
But isn’t that interesting then. The GOP have a chip to play that does nothing to backfire on them, yet still totally hurts those they are trying to hurt. Interesting move.
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“They put us in this ditch along with eight traitors,” Rogers said at the Capitol. “We’re still the majority party, we’re willing to work with them, but they gotta tell us what they need.”
You put yourself in the ditch by constantly pandering to the extremists, not standing up to defend norms, and going along with “one person can kill the Speakership”. We’ve been warning you guys for years and suddenly it’s our fault?
Rogers said the disarray in the House is endangering US national security
Funny, you don’t seem to have that issue with Tuberville blocking all the military nominations because he can’t stop thinking about other people’s genitals.
Another Republican, David Joyce of Ohio, told reporters he’s contacted Democrats about expanding the authority of acting Speaker Pro Tem Patrick McHenry of North Carolina so that the House can act on legislation. Joyce said he has proposed granting McHenry such powers for a limited period of time — perhaps 30 or 60 days
Nope. You guys got yourselves into this mess, you get to sort your own shit out. Not our circus, not our monkeys.
Steve Womack, a senior Republican appropriator, supports that idea. The “only other option,” he said, is for Democrats to lower the threshold needed to elect a speaker by merely voting present.
Nope. Again, you guys did this to yourselves. Not our circus, not our monkeys.
As a North Carolinian, fuck McHenry.
Do they want Dems to vote for the pedo-protector or the white supremacist? The problem is that the GOP thinks everyone is as crazy as they are.
They don’t think they’re crazy, not the crazy ones anyway.
Sure thing. Here’s my proposal. Five or six Republicans vote for Hakeem Jeffries. See? Very helpful!
That’s it. That’s the deal.
It’s not up to Democrats to break your broken shit.
They chose to legitimize that Orange Grotesque so now they can deal with his smooth-brained little devotees.
Not blaming Dems for things that are entirely the GOP’s fault would be a start.
you can’t do that! i mean, if you take away blaming things on the dems… there goes their entire platform!
Demand a shared gavel. The speaker must accept bills to the floor from both party leaders. Then they can pick whoever they want.
That’s so easy to go back on. Like the promise to not nominate Supreme Court Justices right before a presidential election. I would be deeply disappointed if any Democrats believed any promises from Republicans.
Disagree. No concessions.
If the Republicans get desperate enough then they can vote for Adam Schiff
Horrible idea.
Yea way better to have Jim Jordan be the sole arbiter of what gets brought to the floor.
Way better to not make deals with the party enabling fascism and erosion of democracy. Why would you help Republicans secure power before an election??
"…they gotta tell us what they need.”
How about clean debt ceiling votes. The debate over spending is NOW during the budget negotiations. Why they think they can wait half a year, then hold the entire country hostage again when the spending they voted for puts us over the debt ceiling is just ridiculous.
How about 8 of you join in and vote a dem as speaker. No? Didn’t think so.
I think all of the democrats are voting for a dem speaker.
I think it would only take 5, not 8, at least judging by some of the comments. The 8 are the extremists that just flipped the table.
Not even that, lets go a a step further. Automatic CRs until there’s a budget and automatic debt ceiling increases. No more bullshit.
And enough with the Hunter Biden bullshit. The condition for help is that the circus packs up and leaves town. Sham impeachments and do-nothing “investigations” are done.
I remember months ago when McCarthy gave in to the rule that allowed them to pull this stunt.
At the time it was compared to giving a loaded hand gun to your assassin.
Well, suprise to noone they used the loaded gun…
It just blows my mind that mainstream Republicans would rather work with extremists than normal Americans.
If Democrats had a clue about messaging they’d be crowing this exact sentence on every platform in existence.
The Republicans have proven you can’t trust their word.
Fuck em.
Dems should take the deal and then vote for Jeffries. Might aswell take screw the GOP and actually earn the untrustworthy name they get plastered with regularly.
Well, the general public wanted the consistent enforcement of the rule of law. We don’t always get what we want.
They should suggest a democrat. As long as they find 8 republicans supporting it - this can work.
They only need 5 Republicans. The Republicans can also ensure that 10 aren’t there or vote present.
Even putting aside the recent hyper-divisiveness between the Parties and the country at-large… Voting for the other Party’s Speaker nomination is just not done. Like, it hasn’t happened for decades.
They currently have control of the house, they need to work together to vote in their Speaker. However, If they want to cooperate in a bipartisan manner, they can vote for the Democrats’ nomination: Hakeem Jeffries.
Voting for the other Party’s Speaker nomination is just not done. Like, it hasn’t happened for decades.
Sounds like it’s time for a change, then.
Totally fair. Republicans can’t complete this simple procedural step so that the House can actually function; they certainly can’t govern!
So Democrats should go above and beyond and do their job for them with no actual positive results to bring back to the People they represent. They should reach far across the middle, to a Party that once again proved days ago it can’t keep its word on agreements. And if anything doesn’t go perfectly (for Republicans), they’ll falsely blame Democrats and score political points off the circus they created, while the country suffers. Like I said, totally good and fair…
Republicans have tossed away precedence when it suited them, now’s a good a time as ever to break tradition because as it stands the Republican lunatics are running the asylum.
Voting for the other Party’s Speaker nomination is just not done.
Well, time for a change, then.
I realize I made it sound like an etiquette procedural thing. What I really meant is it’s literally not their job. Republicans are in control of the House, therefore they need to choose their own Speaker and then find a way to Govern.
Sure, you could walk into another department of your job and start trying to help, but you wouldn’t be effective, and would probably be in the way. That’s the best comparison I could think of…
requiring bipartisan agreement on who holds the role wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing.
The role is to lead the majority coalition, which currently means no Dems allowed. GOP made those rules, they have to follow them just like everyone else.
