Most of the Lemmy instances seem to require an email to sign up. That’s fine, except most of the places you would go to sign up for email want you to… already have an email. And often a phone number. And almost always a first name, last name, and birthday.

I promise not to do bad stuff, but I don’t want that sort of information able to be publicly associated with my accounts where I write stuff, when everyone inevitably loses their databases to hackers. Pseudonymity is good, actually; on the Internet nobody knows you’re a dog, etc.

Is anyone doing normal webmail registration anymore? Set username and password, receive email for free? I don’t even need to send anything to sign up for accounts elsewhere.

  • sexy_peach@feddit.deEnglish
    12·
    2 years ago

    Not a single Lemmy server requires mail afaik. It’s always optional I think!

    Anyways, I always use one of the 10minutemail websites for stuff like this.

      • admin@aiparadise.moeEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        Happy to see your interest in aiparadise.moe! Personally I use proton mail for all my email account (https://proton.me). Can have your first and last name as your username or whatever you want, they also don’t require having an email already (only if you want password recovery) hope that helps!

        • planish@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          I might give them a try. I already tried to do @planish@aiparadise.moe with planish@sh.itjust.works as an “email”, and that did not work even a little bit. So now I guess I need a new name over there unless you want to use your admin powers to clean up my bad life choices.

          • admin@aiparadise.moeEnglish
            2·
            2 years ago

            Should be able to reapply with your desired username with a proper email, nothing should be reserved on our end for it anymore. Let me know if it gives you any trouble though!

        • planish@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          That’s a good point. My turbo-nerd values beep angrily when I find something I want can only be gotten by asking a real human nicely, and being likable enough to be accepted, and not, say, via a well-documented freely available API call. But sometimes that’s life.

      • sexy_peach@feddit.deEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Oh you’re right. Also my suggestion with a 10minute mail wouldn’t work either since it would probably take longer to approve. There are other burner email services though where you can have an email for a longer time.

        I think the admin will understand if you explain the reason for the email address.

  • Red@reddthat.comEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    Email is currently optional on our instance: https://reddthat.com

    Signup while we leave it optional for the time being. You of course can’t do a password reset without an email. So don’t forget it!

    • saba@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      don’t know where you’re from, but I saw this domain earlier and it reminded me of when I lived in southern US and people would always say “heard that!”

  • b9chomps@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    I use simplelogin for almost all accounts I create. You create an alias address and all emails arriving will be forwarded to an email address you specify. If the address gets spam mails or you don’t need it for any reason, you deactivate or even delete it. Your true address stays clean. The only requirement is to trust simplelogin with your real email address.

    They have a free tier with 10 aliases.

  • Thanotos@kbin.social
    4·
    2 years ago

    I use anonaddy and bitwarden combo, you can add anonaddy’s api to bitwarden username generator and generate temporary email addresses straight in bitwarden. Makes creating accounts so convenient by generating the temporary email address and password in the same place.

    • saluer_lorque
      1·
      2 years ago

      This the combo I use! The API connection makes everything so easy

  • nachtigall@feddit.deEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    It does not answer your question, but my mail provider (mailbox.org) has an option to generate temporary addresses that are viable for 30 days.

  • Cambionn@feddit.nlEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    This is why you should have an anonymous email for non-proffesional use. Or if you want to take it further, you could use something like SimpleLogin (and similar) that create a new alias for every mail. Or you could get a domain with a catch all.

    If you want no email at all. Then why? Just because they’ve got your email doesn’t mean they have all the data your mail provider has. You could just open a free Proton or so if you’re worried about big tech mailservices. Unless you worry about the police getting themselves a court order to get that info, but then whatever you plan to post likely shouldn’t be on a public forum to start with.

    Beside, most free email providers don’t require any info that needs to be verified, so you can insert bullshit. Or if you don’t trust any of them, host your own mailserver. But the fact that you’ll need a domain might be more telling than just using a mail provider.

    If anything, the fact we use email to verify people in the west is already kinda dumb, as it’s easy to make a fake one to spam or for bots. In most of Asia I’ve been to they use phone numbers which is more secure, but less privacy friendly (altrough you could still get yourself a trow away prepaid sim).

    • planish@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      The threat model here is someone getting access to all the services databases through now-routine “data breaches”, and then being able to link what I do online and who I actually am, despite not having any sort of legitimate law-enforcement-type power.

      Well Mx. Smith, I see you’re highly qualified for our busdriver position. However, it looks like, according to embarrassing-databse-dumps.info, on January 8th, 2033 one Jeremick Smith posted “i luv big butt” on !butt-enthusiasts@big.butt. Care to explain this?

      • Cambionn@feddit.nlEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        In that case, something like SimpleLogin would secure you from this specific treat model. The whole point of that is to have a unique email for each service.

        A catch all on a domain could also, since people don’t need to know it’s a catch all and everything leads to your mailbox. But it would require a domain likely linkable to you.

        If you’re worried about your mail provider getting a data breach, then you’re stuck to a free account with bullshit info and trow something like SimpleLogin over that. Most paid accounts require some sort of verifiable info.

        There are no doubt more services that do the same aliasing kinda stuff, SimpleLogin simply comes to mind as an example of what kind of service you need. In fact, I dunno if it’s free or payable witbout tracking (ie likely crypto).

        A bunch of fake bullshit emails on free accounts are also an option ofc. As in, one fake account per service you use. I guess that would be the hardest to trace, unless a hacker is getting into the providers servers and check logs for login time, IP, cookies, general browser fingerprinting etc. Or easier, into your device. But then, this also matters when visiting anything online including Lemmy instances. Of course, you can also try to secure yourself against this too, but there is always a next step or provider that cóúld be exploited.

        Question is really, how far do you wanna go? Assuming everything cán be breached and shouldn’t be trusted without looking at the likeliness of the databreach(es) needed (as in some cases multiple servi es need to be breached to specific levels): does it seem likely you’re new boss (or whatever) will actually take this effort to look for and link al that data and how much effort is it worth. To go with your use-case, I doubt the average bus driver would be screened that harsly.

        Not to forget most hacks still happen by social engineering. You could have the most secure set-up ever, then screw it up by saying something stupid once to the wrong person.

        In the end, the savest bet against this is to stay of the internet. There is always something that could be a treat, be it difficult to exploit (or not).

        I commend you for thinking about privacy like this tho. It’s a fun topic, no matter if it’s overboard for this use-case or not. It’s always good to look into what’s possible. Just don’t forget the “what’s realistic” and “what’s worth it” part (which also depends on the use-case).

    • planish@sh.itjust.worksOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      I looked at them, and I think they would work, but also having multiple email addresses is touted as a feature of their premium plans, and I may or may not already use them. So if I want to be a fresh person I have to sort of cheat them, and they might not like it.

      • aRatherDapperFox@lemmy.ml
        2·
        2 years ago

        You can have multiple emails with them, you simply can’t be signed in to more than one at a time without their premium plan. Think like Google with it’s account swither. Multiple accounts can be logged in and you can hot-swap between them without having to re-login every time. That’s the premium feature for Proton mail.