Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.
Nazis.
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Yeah, fuck Nazis!
No, that’s how they reproduce! Isolate them! Or at least use a condom.
This is the big one
My thought as well.
Hah. It’s probably gonna be worse here.
Nah, they are going to their own rathole.
They main instances have taken strong stances against nazi shit. The Lemmy developers are leftwing communists even, and they run lemmy.ml, so I don’t think defederating from servers who’ll platform nazis is unlikely.
I doubt that any instance I’d be interested in being a part of would federate with nazi communities. They’d end up more isolated than on Reddit.
This is why I love the idea of Federation. You can give them their own space to shout and fling their faeces as much as they want but absolutely nobody is required to give them an audience.
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Yeah, but actual Nazis. Not “you disagreed with me or voted for someone I don’t like so I’m going to call you a Nazi.”
This user doth protest too much, methinks
The comment “This” is annoying to me. Just use the upvote button!
This tbh
Agree. Kind of relatedly, anyone know what boost does versus an upvote?
Assuming they use Mastodon terminology it likely means the same thing as a retweet.
(For anyone confused, OP’s using kbin, not Lemmy)
Yea that seems like something that started showing up more as time went on and more users joined. The trends and jokes did get tiring.
And my axe!
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Add back the hardcoded slur filter but just for these kind of comments
This.
This!
This
Upvoted and this’d
This. I usually try to avoid commenting just “This” and try to give more explanation why I’m saying that. Feel like that’s the proper way of doing it.
Personally I am commenting and posting much more now than ever on reddit. I want to transition to lemmy and see it grow as I refuse to use the Android reddit app.
I am not typing/imagining a comment and then not posting it here either like many people do on reddit. It seems like a good time to become less of a lurker.
If I’m not mistaken, because lemmy by default sorts comments by newest, if you comment something more users will see it, but on reddit it’ll get stuck at the bottom.
Agreed, especially with how new Lemmy is, it just really feels like it needs our engagement to succeed and get more people to join.
I remember when I first got on reddit, it was still bigger than lemmy is now, but it still felt small enough that commenting actually felt worthwhile. Definitely excited to be here. Tryna engage as much as possible so people feel there’s a community to join
Yeah. Honestly I’m way more active here. Granted my whole time on the fediverse is like a week or two, but Ive made more comments today than I have in like a decade on reddit. I could easily see myself not returning to reddit.
The comment “this” comes from sites that don’t have votes. The equivalent here is voting. It really is that simple.
Mods who are running 10 major subreddits. It gives them too much power to steer opinions.
The shadow cabal that ran Reddit
It’s honestly crazy that these random ass mods had the power to actually influence the views of millions
Lol as Reddit management will soon find out (we hope)
The awkward turtle…
Some way to cut down on bot spam / bot shills. The political manipulation in Reddit really grew thick 2015ish and never went away.
The comment bots got thicker than mosquitoes in a swamp over the past couple of years. You couldn’t go into a comment section without half the comments being bots reposting them from other similar threads.
Yes they did. It is/was rough.
Thirsty comments. Puns. Meta humor. Dog language like “fren.” People who use the word “stonk.”
The forced ‘inside jokes’ that filled so many threads, so many times you would see a post and be able to predict the top comment and its replies. Hoping that the lack of account karma helps with that.
Ah, the ole Lemmy switcheroo.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger.
I threw up in my mouth… like a lot
Don’t forget to edit your comment to say thanks when it goes over a thousand upvotes.
I feel conflicted between downvoting this as these are the exact types of comments that ended up grinding my gears, or to upvote you because that’s precisely why you wrote them.
You mean you don’t like reading the same witty one-liners on every third post? I’m looking forward to actual discussion with less farming for fake internet points.
i dunno, but anarchychess memes that leak out into other communities never fail to make me laugh
Seeing “google en passant” everywhere was both annoying and absolutely hilarious.
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This.
(I said sarcastically.)
If this was a Reddit thread you’d have about 300 replies of “This. So much this.”
This
Neoliberalism and collaboration with various State Department agents.
I’m almost 100% positive that we’re safe on this one.
I’ve been reading a shit ton of neoliberalism on sibling instances and it leaks in here, so I wouldn’t be too confident. Obviously the second item is not relevant at the moment.
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Tankie! /s
I think we should let go of “/s”
liberals, lemmy was made by communists for communists
Seems like that’s a lost hope points to trans athlete comments above. Mastodon was essentially a leftist space upon creation as well, wasn’t it? I’m new here, but I am hoping that once people catch on to how the fediverse works, they will sort themselves into their “appropriate” instances, or just leave altogether. I do not care about the echo chamber argument, I want my online space to be relatively cozy and not filled with “WeLl AcKtUaLlY” smug centrists.
What is the connection between communism and the transgender movement? Is it as simple as there being significant overlap as marginalized groups fighting against the status quo? The interviews for the Marxist instances pointedly asked how I felt about LGBTQ, and now you’re intimating that discussing Trans athletes is indicative of someone being a liberal as opposed to a leftist. I don’t see how someone’s opinion about Trans athletes has anything to do with their opinion about the optimal socioeconomic structure of society.
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Oh boy, you’re going to be in for a disappointment
Fear of dropping the hammer down on bad actors.
And power mods too. No point moving to the Fediverse just to have all the content moderated and censored by 8 or 10 power trippy losers.
Some people just like lurking.
gatekeeping, censorship, shadowbans from commenting in a different community, echo chambers.
Shadowbans especially. Either ban a post or not, but don’t make the poster think everyone can still see it without explanation.
The Fediverse already has these, there are lots of echo chamber instances that automatically block other instances for simply federating with the “wrong” instance (equivalent to those AutoMod bans on Reddit for posting in a certain subreddit). Since instance admins pay for their instances out of pocket, they are more restrictive with their instance’s allowed content than social media websites that want to cast the widest net. Eventually, there will be a massive split between communities, like how conservative and progressive Mastodon instances all block each other. Centrists can just have an account on each side of the wall.
making brigading more unacceptable here than it seems to be on reddit would be nice
Define brigading.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brigading
Top three replies:
A concentrated effort by one online group to manipulate another. (e.g. by mass commenting)
When people from one group, organization, fandom, forum, server, etc. aggressively infiltrates, usually spontaneously, a rival forum, server, or stream; negative criticism is usually given to the victim of a brigade (the event itself sometimes being called a raid), with insults and counter-signaling common. Usually used in the past participle (“brigaded”). Brigades can be done in good humor, but are usually antagonistic in nature.
Brigading is an online harassment tactic where a group of people rally against an individual (or occasionally against a small group of people) in a coordinated, sustained and organized way.
So wait if I post a link on here and a bunch of people go there and comment wouldn’t that be brigading? So basically this entire platform can be considered as designed to brigade other websites?
If that happens with malicious intent, yes. If it’s just advertising, a friendly visit or an otherwise civil exchange of opinions, no.
How can we determine malicious intent?
If a bunch of people go to have a discussion and one person says “Hey we should mess with them” is the whole group considered malicious?
On the flip side if a bunch of people go and comment maliciously but it’s never explicit is it fair to just assign malicious intent to them?
How can we determine malicious intent?
It’s social interactions, not science. People form opinions.
People may falsly assume they’re being brigaded, and there may be confusion around the term and the limits. Which in turn can be used by brigading groups to conceal their efforts.
Anyways, I hope I could help answer some of your questions.
Coordinated attempts to sway public discussions
That seems really broad tbh, like me and my doctor friends try to convince people they should brush their teeth twice a day would fall under that.
Realized another - the awards that reddit created were out of control. I didn’t mind avatars too much since customization can be fun and it was optional, but the awards are spammed and shown on most reddit clients.
Awards were fine when there was only three of them: gold, silver, platinum. Once they added twenty billion, all meaning the awards once had were lost, especially since many of them were given to users for free when they were once paid only.
I actually support awards here with the option of hiding them, i think it’d be a good, relatively ethical way to monetize lemmy.
funding is better than monetizing a platform
Yeah that’s a really good point. Maybe a portion of the award funds for a given post could go to that post’s creator’s server and a portion to a pooled fund for all servers/servers reaching capacity?
Of course this and any other ideas re monitising should be carefully thought out re perverse incentives 😬
It’d be kinda cool to have a ‘$s donated in this comments name’ counter or something. But yeah 100 different sprites/icons on a comment was visual gore.
It could be in cool (in the future) to have a donate button instead, so to support users who are posting great content
On the other hand, donating to lemmy should be separate (the way it is now) and not a cut of those donations to users
Like integrating a PayPal/ Kofi tool kind of?
I always thought it would be cool if awards meant something, like a donation to an NGO of the user’s choosing (from a list of 20 or so to reduce complexity). Lemmy could be one of the options but not the only option (like it was for Reddit) that the money would go to. I feel like more people would buy and give awards if that were the case.
I felt the move of making reddit silver a real award was a big shift. Newer users don’t even get why reddit silver was a thing.
I do like the idea of optional visibility - awards certain;y don’t have to be bloat/bad.
Reddit Silver being an award just completely stole all the magic out of it. It was a cute little memey way to show support and make fun of Reddit Gold and then it got turned into a way to put more money in Reddit’s pocket :c
I remember Reddit Gold being controversial when it was new.
