Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.
The comment “This” is annoying to me. Just use the upvote button!
This.
This!
Upvoted and this’d
This
The comment “this” comes from sites that don’t have votes. The equivalent here is voting. It really is that simple.
Add back the hardcoded slur filter but just for these kind of comments
Agree. Kind of relatedly, anyone know what boost does versus an upvote?
Assuming they use Mastodon terminology it likely means the same thing as a retweet.
(For anyone confused, OP’s using kbin, not Lemmy)
Yea that seems like something that started showing up more as time went on and more users joined. The trends and jokes did get tiring.
And my axe!
🙄
This. I usually try to avoid commenting just “This” and try to give more explanation why I’m saying that. Feel like that’s the proper way of doing it.
Personally I am commenting and posting much more now than ever on reddit. I want to transition to lemmy and see it grow as I refuse to use the Android reddit app.
I am not typing/imagining a comment and then not posting it here either like many people do on reddit. It seems like a good time to become less of a lurker.
Yeah. Honestly I’m way more active here. Granted my whole time on the fediverse is like a week or two, but Ive made more comments today than I have in like a decade on reddit. I could easily see myself not returning to reddit.
Agreed, especially with how new Lemmy is, it just really feels like it needs our engagement to succeed and get more people to join.
I remember when I first got on reddit, it was still bigger than lemmy is now, but it still felt small enough that commenting actually felt worthwhile. Definitely excited to be here. Tryna engage as much as possible so people feel there’s a community to join
If I’m not mistaken, because lemmy by default sorts comments by newest, if you comment something more users will see it, but on reddit it’ll get stuck at the bottom.
This tbh
Nazis.
Yeah, but actual Nazis. Not “you disagreed with me or voted for someone I don’t like so I’m going to call you a Nazi.”
This user doth protest too much, methinks
This is the big one
Yeah, fuck Nazis!
No, that’s how they reproduce! Isolate them! Or at least use a condom.
My thought as well.
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Hah. It’s probably gonna be worse here.
They main instances have taken strong stances against nazi shit. The Lemmy developers are leftwing communists even, and they run lemmy.ml, so I don’t think defederating from servers who’ll platform nazis is unlikely.
Nah, they are going to their own rathole.
I doubt that any instance I’d be interested in being a part of would federate with nazi communities. They’d end up more isolated than on Reddit.
This is why I love the idea of Federation. You can give them their own space to shout and fling their faeces as much as they want but absolutely nobody is required to give them an audience.
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Mods who are running 10 major subreddits. It gives them too much power to steer opinions.
The shadow cabal that ran Reddit
It’s honestly crazy that these random ass mods had the power to actually influence the views of millions
Lol as Reddit management will soon find out (we hope)
The awkward turtle…
A relatively small thing: the 500-comment viewing limit for normal accounts. So many times on Reddit I’ve been put off engaging with posts with 500+ comments knowing that nobody would see it. It’s stupid because comments are just text and unless the software design is absolutely terrible then simple text comments shouldn’t take up bandwidth at all.
the 500 comment limit made the concept of daily threads replacing common questions a killer on subs like r/fitness. “Has this question been asked before? Well, instead of being able to pull up several threads about this topic, I have to go through the daily threads of hundreds of days and search the comments for keywords - after increasing the number of comments visible from 200 to 500, and then still not being able to search all the comments on the 1000+ comment threads.” Just genuinely became unusable.
Funny that Reddit pretends to be saving you bandwidth by not loading comments, but has no problem loading 100MB of javascript bloat.
/s
Pretty much accepted it was the end of reddit when that started appearing… /s
That and 9gag immigrants
If lemmy can avoid the use of /s and 9gag immigrants I’ll be a happy little lemonian.
Never got the resistance to /s. Some people just struggle with understanding sarcasm, seems an easy way to avoid misunderstanding.
I think because for those who do understand it the /s just ruins the joke. So I don’t think there is pleasing both sides.
The /s tag is important yo easily recognize sarcasm, especially for neurodivergent people.
Agreed. I can’t tell you how many times in business I’ve seen a matter of fact text or email set someone off thinking the sender was some sort of monster. Try to add any humor and it can be 100% worse when it comes to interpreting.
I never had an issue with the /s used. Yes, I could read it as sarcasm 90% of the time before it appeared. But to me the written word should always add clarity. If the one commenting felt it should be used then so be it.
Part of the humor in sarcasm is feigned sincerity.
It’s like explaining the joke immediately after telling it. If you have to tell everyone its sarcasm, then you’ve done a bad job at deploying sarcasm.
Except half the trick to deploying sarcasm is to use tone of voice, which you can’t do in a text-only format. /s is like a shortcut for that. To use a face-to-face example, it’s like saying something sarcastic with a straight face then cracking a smile to reveal you were joking all along.
Plus we’re on the internet, people have some terrible takes that totally seem like they should be sarcastic but just aren’t.
I guess I do get it though. /s does take some of the humor out of it, but it seems like more than a worthy tradeoff. People are just so hostile to it.
Telling jokes in a text medium isn’t new and sarcasm is frequently used without hackish writers rushing to reassure everyone that they were only kidding. If you can’t do a sarcasm without an ‘/s’ then just don’t do one.
Yeah, sarcasm doesn’t translate well in text. At times, it’s easy to identify a sarcastic comment, and sometimes it’s not clear. I have myself interpreted comments on differently before seeong the /s at the end. Changes the entire perspectives sometimes.
Writing and reading sarcasm on screenplays work, though. So why not on any Internet social platforms? This buffles a lot of Redditors. They really take the post/replies too serious.
Yea, always hated that one.
maybe Elon musk will save the children /YET I SPEAK FALSLY FOR HUMOROUS EFFECT AS MUSK WILL IN FACT NOT SAVE ANY CHILDREN
You’re stepping on the joke, once by mentioning it, and again by ripping out the best thing about low-key sarcasm: that some people don’t get the joke.
Frankly, its racist against the British.
This is a good point, and it lead me to a realization: on reddit, there are two crowds that don’t get the joke. The first is the people the sarcasm makes fun of. The second is people on your side that just really love correcting people. Treating you like you’re serious is a chance to correct you and gain community approval for how “right” they are. They miss the sarcasm because they’re so excited to correct someone and gain community approval for it.
This isn’t a problem in real life: you know who you’re around, and you make sarcastic jokes when everyone around you knows your stance already. I can see why /s became a sort of necessary protection on reddit. We can hope to not have to protect ourselves from people like that here, and not need /s as a result.
Not everyone gets the joke in real life either.
Sarcasm is how undercover British police catch foreigners. They make little comments, and when someone takes them seriously, BAM - deportation.
i just kinda stopped using reddit around then, mainly only became active again because stuck at home.
Always lurked, just stopped posting after so many insane arguments over sarcasm. Really should have been a cross instead of a slash.
It’s a slash because it’s a shortened version of <sarcasm></sarcasm>, fake HTML tags that used to be used on forums.
oh im aware
RIP Sarcasm
The forced ‘inside jokes’ that filled so many threads, so many times you would see a post and be able to predict the top comment and its replies. Hoping that the lack of account karma helps with that.
You mean you don’t like reading the same witty one-liners on every third post? I’m looking forward to actual discussion with less farming for fake internet points.
This.
(I said sarcastically.)
i dunno, but anarchychess memes that leak out into other communities never fail to make me laugh
Seeing “google en passant” everywhere was both annoying and absolutely hilarious.
New response just dropped
If this was a Reddit thread you’d have about 300 replies of “This. So much this.”
Ah, the ole Lemmy switcheroo.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger.
I threw up in my mouth… like a lot
Don’t forget to edit your comment to say thanks when it goes over a thousand upvotes.
I feel conflicted between downvoting this as these are the exact types of comments that ended up grinding my gears, or to upvote you because that’s precisely why you wrote them.
This
I’d like less nazis. Including the dog whistling kind.
Since Nazis took over a Bluey Memes (children’s cartoon) Facebook page, I realized the only way to be rid of them is to have a zero tolerance for Nazis policy. Anything community purports “free speech” should be considered an immediate dog whistle for fascist creep.
You should say “fewer Nazis.” Ha! Didn’t think you’d meet a grammar Nazi so soon did you?
You should actually say “No Nazis at all”
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Tankie! /s
I think we should let go of “/s”
redditors
Fear of dropping the hammer down on bad actors.
And power mods too. No point moving to the Fediverse just to have all the content moderated and censored by 8 or 10 power trippy losers.
Some people just like lurking.
gatekeeping, censorship, shadowbans from commenting in a different community, echo chambers.
The Fediverse already has these, there are lots of echo chamber instances that automatically block other instances for simply federating with the “wrong” instance (equivalent to those AutoMod bans on Reddit for posting in a certain subreddit). Since instance admins pay for their instances out of pocket, they are more restrictive with their instance’s allowed content than social media websites that want to cast the widest net. Eventually, there will be a massive split between communities, like how conservative and progressive Mastodon instances all block each other. Centrists can just have an account on each side of the wall.
Shadowbans especially. Either ban a post or not, but don’t make the poster think everyone can still see it without explanation.
making brigading more unacceptable here than it seems to be on reddit would be nice
Define brigading.
Coordinated attempts to sway public discussions
That seems really broad tbh, like me and my doctor friends try to convince people they should brush their teeth twice a day would fall under that.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brigading
Top three replies:
A concentrated effort by one online group to manipulate another. (e.g. by mass commenting)
When people from one group, organization, fandom, forum, server, etc. aggressively infiltrates, usually spontaneously, a rival forum, server, or stream; negative criticism is usually given to the victim of a brigade (the event itself sometimes being called a raid), with insults and counter-signaling common. Usually used in the past participle (“brigaded”). Brigades can be done in good humor, but are usually antagonistic in nature.
Brigading is an online harassment tactic where a group of people rally against an individual (or occasionally against a small group of people) in a coordinated, sustained and organized way.
So wait if I post a link on here and a bunch of people go there and comment wouldn’t that be brigading? So basically this entire platform can be considered as designed to brigade other websites?
If that happens with malicious intent, yes. If it’s just advertising, a friendly visit or an otherwise civil exchange of opinions, no.
How can we determine malicious intent?
If a bunch of people go to have a discussion and one person says “Hey we should mess with them” is the whole group considered malicious?
On the flip side if a bunch of people go and comment maliciously but it’s never explicit is it fair to just assign malicious intent to them?
How can we determine malicious intent?
It’s social interactions, not science. People form opinions.
People may falsly assume they’re being brigaded, and there may be confusion around the term and the limits. Which in turn can be used by brigading groups to conceal their efforts.
Anyways, I hope I could help answer some of your questions.
Realized another - the awards that reddit created were out of control. I didn’t mind avatars too much since customization can be fun and it was optional, but the awards are spammed and shown on most reddit clients.
Awards were fine when there was only three of them: gold, silver, platinum. Once they added twenty billion, all meaning the awards once had were lost, especially since many of them were given to users for free when they were once paid only.
I actually support awards here with the option of hiding them, i think it’d be a good, relatively ethical way to monetize lemmy.
Yeah that’s a really good point. Maybe a portion of the award funds for a given post could go to that post’s creator’s server and a portion to a pooled fund for all servers/servers reaching capacity?
Of course this and any other ideas re monitising should be carefully thought out re perverse incentives 😬
funding is better than monetizing a platform
I felt the move of making reddit silver a real award was a big shift. Newer users don’t even get why reddit silver was a thing.
I do like the idea of optional visibility - awards certain;y don’t have to be bloat/bad.
I remember Reddit Gold being controversial when it was new.
Reddit Silver being an award just completely stole all the magic out of it. It was a cute little memey way to show support and make fun of Reddit Gold and then it got turned into a way to put more money in Reddit’s pocket :c
It could be in cool (in the future) to have a donate button instead, so to support users who are posting great content
On the other hand, donating to lemmy should be separate (the way it is now) and not a cut of those donations to users
Like integrating a PayPal/ Kofi tool kind of?
I always thought it would be cool if awards meant something, like a donation to an NGO of the user’s choosing (from a list of 20 or so to reduce complexity). Lemmy could be one of the options but not the only option (like it was for Reddit) that the money would go to. I feel like more people would buy and give awards if that were the case.
It’d be kinda cool to have a ‘$s donated in this comments name’ counter or something. But yeah 100 different sprites/icons on a comment was visual gore.
