Tonight, Thursday, March 7th, is the State of the Union Address so lets keep everything related to it (including the Republican response) confined to this thread.
This is probably one of the most important speeches Biden can give this year. He has to come across as āPresentā, not just āPresidentā.
This will set the tone for the campaign the rest of the year and will be second only to the Democratic Convention speech in August for visibility.
Watch it live here:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2024/
Or through your favorite news source.
The Republican response will be delivered by Senator Katie Britt of Alabama:
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/07/1236338784/katie-britt-alabama-republican-biden-state-of-the-union
Very good speech!
Full transcript is here:
https://time.com/6898705/read-president-joe-bidens-2024-state-of-the-union-address-full-transcript/
Republican response from Katie Britt here:
I encourage you to watch the video and not just read the transcript. Reading it doesnāt carry just how breathless and borderline weepy her delivery is.
In my mind, the best bit was at the very endā¦ itās not about the age of the candidate, itās about the age of the ideas, and fear and hate are some of the oldest ideas of mankind.
"My fellow Americans, the issue facing our nation isnāt how old we are, itās how old our ideas are.
Hate, anger, revenge, retribution are amongĀ the oldest of ideas.
But you canāt lead AmericaĀ withĀ ancientĀ ideas that only take usĀ back.
ToĀ lead America,Ā the land of possibilities,Ā you need aĀ visionĀ for the futureĀ of what AmericaĀ canĀ andĀ shouldĀ be.Ā "
Listening to him work the floor now, he knows everyone and has something to tell them about the thing they care about. Its impressive.
Itās almost like heās been doing this for a while and has experience. Such a breath of fresh air after four years of that other guy.
Bidenās ideas are pretty ancient themselves. But heās not wrong. Fuck anyone who vilifies the poor and minorities. Biden likely wonāt accomplish much to reduce poverty or help the average person. But he likely wonāt make any of that demonstrably worse ether. And honestly heās been way better than many imagined he would. Shitty Israel policy not withstanding. Thank goodness heās finally taking small steps to balance out his fuck ups.
I have some big hopes for 2028 if weāre still holding elections. Hopefully some fresh young blood will be ready to run. Like Ocasio-Cortez after almost a decade in the house. But to get there I canāt deny Biden is the path forward for now.
God damn. What an ending. Thats some legacy shit right there.
Biden had been saying awesome stuff since the 80s. Look up his 80s stuff. Inspiring.
I still prefer Sanders, though.
Dude is sharp, itās no comparison really between Biden and the ālook having nuclear guyā. Im done giving the people āworriedā about Bidens mind the time of day.
Heās had a couple of mis-speaks but thatās because heās going too fast (!)
His stutter and mispeaks are not off-putting to me at all. He is obviously mentally fit, this isnāt how someone with mental deficiencies sounds.
Yep. Watching this, anyone who claims heās mentally unfit is a fucking liar, and you can immediately dismiss anything else they have to say.
Look heās old. I completely agree itās a concern for >70% of Americans. Both are geriatrics with clear issues.
But one is morally sound. The other is not. One has smart cabinet members and advisors. The other has his fucking kids in a blatant act of nepotism and crooks.
Biden has also had a stutter his whole life. Itās not new.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/joe-biden-stutter/index.html
His pacing is way off and heās rushing. Not waiting for the applause to finish.
Heās absolutely killing it, and you know it.
Congratulations, he can read empty promises that multiple speech writers wrote for him on a teleprompter.
Better than just stealing the speech from the previous guys wife.
Yup, because he knows slow or paced = āoldā.
This is why I hope heāll commit to a lot more engagements like late shows and whistle stop tours. When heās out talking he reinforces that heās still got it togetherā¦ while Trumpā¦ well heās clearly losing it.
He is absolutely going to destroy Trump in the debates. Itās gonna be like Prime Tyson vs Marvis Frazier. 30 seconds and itās over.
How long until Donnie boy starts trying to dodge the debates because of āthese corrupt political sham trialsā and his fanatical followers lap it up?
āwill you shut up man?ā from the last debates is still one of my favorite TV moments
Before this speech, I wondered how heād deal with the predictable topics heād be attacked on. I didnāt expect him to be the one to bring them all up himself. Baller move.
Heās baiting them to shout out so he can smack them back down, and theyāre dumb enough to keep falling for it.
Over and over and over again! Those clips are going to get played on repeat.
Pretty good way to show that heās mentally sharp and on top of it. Republicans just destroyed their own talking point.
Itās not just a good speech for Biden, this is the best SOTU Iāve ever heard.
Honestly, yeah. This is better than any of Obamaās, and Obamaās were all great.
I really wish Biden wouldāve turned around to Mike Johnson when he was talking about January 6th and ask, āwhatās the matter with you, man? Why arenāt you clapping? So you support a fascist takeover? Of course you doā¦ā
Also turn around and say, 'itās this man here who is blocking aid to Ukraine while women and children die in Ukraine"
Dude, he was squirming hard in that chair lmao.
Love it, but I say twist the blade lol.
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Lmao. Led them into the Social Security trap again
EVERY trap! And theyāre acting as if they havenāt learned their lesson a year or even a few minutes earlier
And they fell right into it again.
Biden knocked this fucker out of the park.
Bona-fide 500 foot grand slam blast over the center field wall.
Wow! He is not pulling any punches lmao. Mike is squirming in his chair behind him.
He looks like the Keebler elf
Every time I see a headshot of Johnson, he reminds me of a Lego minifig.
Wish version Keebler elf
Haha squirm away you little shit.
Nice to see him call this bullshit out.
God damn right.
So I get in my car, and iām listening to the beat on MSNBC, and a reporter is saying that she was talking with a bunch of young voters, especially young black voters.
Basically, they think that theyāve already been through a Trump presidency, and itās not gonna be any different from the first time. Oh boy, could they not be more wrong. Apparently, they havenāt heard about project 2025, or they think itās nothing big that 20,000 fascists are itching to take over government roles in the next Trump White House.
Maybe I am dumb butā¦ I am genuinely starting to think many people are fundamentally incapable of imagining complex, abstract potential outcomes (like allowing Trump back in office).
I always assumed envisioning such things was easy, instant, and obvious for nearly everyone.
Several years ago I started noticing a couple of people make decisions that to me seemed insane and later they were surprised by the outcome that I saw coming a mile away.
And I started wondering, could this ability to imagine how things will turn out be much rarer than I ever imagined?
I genuinely donāt know for sure. Not like I have a ton of conversations with different people let alone ones about cognitive abilities lol.
Like, I didnāt even realize some people canāt see images in their heads or donāt have an inner monologue (think by ātalking to themselvesā using language) until fairly recently and Iām in my 50s.
Surely anyone can imagine some vague idea of what happens if they jump in front of a speeding bus. Thatās simple. Surely you can at least conceptualize that youāll be run into and injured or killed. Maybe even imagine it with some internal video of your body being run over by giant bus tires or being flung from the impact and landing in a crumbled bleeding mess. Nothing complicated there.
But is it actually impossible for some to imagine the many ways Trump and the Project 2025 people are going to fuck up everything?
That would certainly explain the bafflingly cavalier reactions to cybersecurity vulnerabilities Iāve seen over the years. Or the shrugging off of egregious privacy issues.
And I started wondering, could this ability to imagine how things will turn out be much rarer than I ever imagined?
Yes - it is. As someone with ADHD and in my mid 30ās now, i have wondered the same thing quite often, because a lot of times solutions to complex problems seem extremely easy to me, where people around me are absolutely baffled by me calling a solution very simple and easy.
I started wondering the same thing a few years back and came to the conclusion: Most people donāt care. Iāve had quite a few very recent discussions about various issues about consumers needing to be more educated and able to make decisions on what they buy. Every time i bring this up, i realize that even these simple things are too much for most people.
As someone with ADHD and in my mid 30ās now, i have wondered the same thing quite often, because a lot of times solutions to complex problems seem extremely easy to me, where people around me are absolutely baffled by me calling a solution very simple and easy.
Coincidentally, I too, have ADHD. Oftentimes, I can envision the general shape of somewhat complex solutions. And either they donāt see it as simple, donāt understand it, donāt understand the point, or canāt see it at all. Now sure, sometimes I come up with idiotic ideas that make no sense once I know more. But not always.
I have found it is easy for some of us to get spun up about the sorts of things you mention. Like āomg how can you use Windows 11 with all the ads and whateverā. The kind of stuff we rant about on Lemmy. And yeah I think people donāt care a lot.
Sometimes it is because they have other more pressing priorities. Iāve had to learn that well in my infosec career. It is easy for me to fixate on something important to me. But if a person is just trying to get through the day (I mean, letās be honest, I am struggling to do that), raising a kid, paying the bills, and so forth, then they have better things to do than fret about an OS and try to find time to learn Linux or cough up the fortune required to buy a Mac or whatever.
Sometimes they canāt seem to forsee the potential consequences. Either they just are incapableāmy original point aboveāor, in some cases, they donāt have any practice imagining what bad people could try if they wanted to. Maybe due to ADHD and anxiety I had a lot of practice imagining bad outcomes. (Maybe thatās an evolutionary advantage of ADHD lol). I suspect about half my team has ADHD and I think thatās common in the industry lol.
Nice to find someone with similar experiences! Helps to know Iām not crazy or at least not crazy alone š¤Ŗ
Coincidentally, I too, have ADHD. Oftentimes, I can envision the general shape of somewhat complex solutions. And either they donāt see it as simple, donāt understand it, donāt understand the point, or canāt see it at all. Now sure, sometimes I come up with idiotic ideas that make no sense once I know more. But not always.
Ha! I know what you mean :D I do too^^
I have found it is easy for some of us to get spun up about the sorts of things you mention. Like āomg how can you use Windows 11 with all the ads and whateverā. The kind of stuff we rant about on Lemmy. And yeah I think people donāt care a lot.
Yeahā¦there are lotās of things i get spun up :D
Sometimes it is because they have other more pressing priorities. Iāve had to learn that well in my infosec career. It is easy for me to fixate on something important to me. But if a person is just trying to get through the day (I mean, letās be honest, I am struggling to do that), raising a kid, paying the bills, and so forth, then they have better things to do than fret about an OS and try to find time to learn Linux or cough up the fortune required to buy a Mac or whatever.
Same lessons in Infrastructure (although, i have to admit iām not trying to get through the day, iāve had a lot of help throughout the years to get a grip on my ADHD except some occasional very heavy distractibility and chaotic thoughts)ā¦but i still except some very basic 1+1ā¦sometimes even that is too much asked. I mean, if you can click a damn start menu on Windows, i can expect you to click it on Linux as well, even if the Icon is a little different, itās still only a damn menu! ;)
Sometimes they canāt seem to forsee the potential consequences. Either they just are incapableāmy original point aboveāor, in some cases, they donāt have any practice imagining what bad people could try if they wanted to. Maybe due to ADHD and anxiety I had a lot of practice imagining bad outcomes. (Maybe thatās an evolutionary advantage of ADHD lol). I suspect about half my team has ADHD and I think thatās common in the industry lol.
Personally, i think my Star Trek addiction helped me a lot in those terms, because i always try to imagine the best possible outcome first and then go down the rabbit hole and tell myself āWell, thereās still a chance!ā. Which is also why i try to imagine that in most people, thereās still some good left (there are exceptionsā¦Trump and his cronies being some) - but i agree with you, that most people have lost the ability to just āimagineā. Personally, i also think thatās why the overall state is not that great, because with loosing the ability to imagine things, people also lost the ability to dream. Problem solving, imagining and dreaming are all things that are heavily interconnected and interwoven. I also am of the firm believe, that one advantage of ADHD is that the ability to shape our imagining āas we goā, because āweā can flip between numerous possible outcomes pretty damn fast. And so on. Just a little tip: Try to imagine more āgoodā outcomes as well - just in case ;)
Nice to find someone with similar experiences! Helps to know Iām not crazy or at least not crazy alone š¤Ŗ
Same :) And no - you are not crazy and you are not crazy alone :D
Interesting about Star Trek as a way to deal with anxiety about bad outcomes :). My Trek love helps me too but more with giving me a nearly imperceptible glimmer of hope for humanity.
(I wasnāt sure if I was a true Trekkie but now that Iāve been catching up on all the post-Voyager shows I guess I must be because I love all of itā¦ I mean I even found things to like about ST V, soā¦ Lol). Anyway ā¦
But yeah you may be onto something about people either losing the abilityāor maybe the willāto dream of something better. Once you get discouraged enough, it is hard to bother dreaming.
If you spend enough time online steeped in endless doomerism, with no talk of action or organization or anything, learned helplessness inevitably sets in. Sort of by definition, you stop dreaming. Which is why my recent Trek binges have been so helpful.
I should add that meds and introspection have helped a lot with the anxiety and imagining the worst outcomes. Now I do it without getting twisted up in knots and it serves me vs the other way around. But I could still stand to imagine good outcomes more often.
Anyway I appreciate the dialog! Youāre a good egg. :) Hope to run into you again in the Lemmyverse before long.
Ah yes, I believe youāve encountered people in the wild who support leopards eating their face. This is a documented phenomenon and I, for one, donāt have a clue what can be done about it.
Maybe Biden should have done some shit the first two years instead of ālooking into thingsā until right before midterms.
Then after losing the House, saying it was too late to do anything.
People didnāt elect Joe Biden so he could spend 2 years looking into how to undo the damage of trump.
And Biden failed at that.
Now heās telling us that this time will be different. Historically, this is what makes 1 term presidents.
So how should he have ādone some shit the first two yearsā?
You mean like:
The American Rescue Plan
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law
The largest gun safety bill in 30 years
The CHIPS and Science Act
The Inflation Reduction Act
and support for Ukraine so they can fight off the orks that directly impacts our economy by giving Ukraine old weapons that would have rotted in wearhouses and resupply with new ones providing high paying jobs to American workers.
Stuff like that?
I aināt writing an essay to talk about the whole list at once.
The American Rescue Plan
Oh yeah, that thing thatās the reason American inflation is higher than comparable countries?
https://www.vox.com/23036340/biden-american-rescue-plan-inflation
The authors donāt mince words about why they think that is, writing: āEstimates suggest that fiscal support measures designed to counteract the severity of the pandemicās economic effect may have contributed to this divergence by raising inflation about 3 percentage points by the end of 2021.ā
That is: The US did a lot more stimulus than these other countries, and now itās seeing a lot more core inflation. And the stimulus that most stands out is Bidenās $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan ā because it was enacted after more than $3 trillion had already been spent to stimulate the economy under Trump, with one big chunk of that being approved just three months prior.
āWe put gasoline on the fire. Thatās basically what the ARP did. It was almost written as if we didnāt just pass a trillion-dollar stimulus in December,ā said Goldwein.
Alsoā¦
You know only a tiny little slice went to working class Americans right?
Like, everyone got the $1400, even Bill Gates. But a lot went to people, companies, and states that just didnāt need it.
That article is really good, and somebody got paid to write it.
So go read that, soak it up.
And then, if itās not too late, I honestly wouldnāt mind getting into that infrastructure bill. Thatās a doozy, and if youāre bragging about, thereās a lot you donāt know.
But letās be honest, this comment and that article are more than most would read.
I aināt writing an essay to talk about the whole list at once.
Bruh.
If youāre going to claim nothing happened in the past two years and someone gives you a laundry list of milestones and events, you canāt just say āeh I donāt feel like writing an essay on itā. Either explain why none of them count, or concede the argument. As it is, your argument is incredibly weak since youāre barely addressing their point.
Also,
That article is really good, and somebody got paid to write itā¦ So go read that, soak it up.
But letās be honest, this comment and that article are more than most would read.
Bruh. What.
If you arenāt going to write a proper response, donāt bemoan that people arenāt reading shit.
Donāt feed the troll.
I mean, I said thatā¦
Went over the first on the listā¦
Then said:
And then, if itās not too late, I honestly wouldnāt mind getting into that infrastructure bill.
Because that was the next thing on the listā¦
Did you notice how that person never replied?
someone gives you a laundry list
Itās known as a gish gallop.
None of them pass scrutiny alone, but it would take a lot of effort to disprove all of them at once. Especially when the likely result is the person latches on to a small part of a source you quoted and refuses to read the actual source that goes in depth and was written by a professional
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Did you try reading the whole article for more info?
Or did you really think those three paragraphs was the whole thing without clicking the link?
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Well, you could have read the article and gotten a great explanationā¦
Instead you choose to hurl insults, weird how often the people blindly supporting Biden do that.
Have a nice life bud, lifeās to short for that type of discourse about something so serious.
Your article is two years old and provides a mountain of speculation about economics that didnāt pan out in reality. Seriously, check it out, inflation in the US peaked lower than the UK or EU, and has trended below them consistently through today.
Go ahead and argue about the relative stability of more insular economies like Japan and China, but the Fed did exactly what they set out to do, and they did it more effectively than other comparable central banks.
You know only a tiny little slice went to working class Americans right?
Like, everyone got the $1400, even Bill Gates. But a lot went to people, companies, and states that just didnāt need it.
Objectively, verifiably false. Single taxpayers under $75k, couples under $150k. Bill Gates didnāt benefit. Maybe youāre thinking of the stimulus that Trump signed that blindly handed out thousands of dollars to businesses with little to no accountability?
You sound like a real treasure. Glad I donāt know you.
So what do you want, Trump?
I want Biden to smarten the fuck up while thereās still time to beat trump, and the DNC to learn their lesson about shoving unpopular conservative candidates down our throats.
But I donāt think it will happen.
I always wanted every state to have delegates for the primary, I thought that was a low bar too.
So excuse me if, like most Dem voters, Iām kind of pissed about it.
If yāall didnāt see Bidenās reaction to Marjorie when he walked in, you NEED to see it! I laughed so hard! Even she tried not to laugh.
The look that says āWow! Yāall come in the SAME clown car or just you?ā š¤”
He should come out to Sabotage by the Beasties Boys. Liven shit up a bit.
Canāt wait till the first Zoomer president.
Bruh. We may not have presidents any more.
Thanks for crashing the tone of my comment with your doomer shit. Real cool of you š
Stupid take.
Have you been living under a rock for 8 years?
I kind of wanted the Wonka introduction:
Found the Friend of the Pod.
Thereās dozens of us, dozens I tell youā¦
I read that in Lovettās voice in my head.
Aaaaand hereās the Republican responseā¦
2 sentences in and she sounds like sheās going to cry.
Her: āIām a momā
Her constituents: āRub it in, why dontcha?ā
Hi Sconie! Whereād you transplant to? I went to college out there but live in Colorado now (a place where ātransplantā seems to play a disproportionate part in the local lexicon)
I moved out to Mass then New Hampshire. I still visit back there from time to time.
Her backdrop set is literally a kitchenā¦
Well, she claims itās her kitchenā¦
Holy crap this rebuttal is justā¦ Bad. Especially given what itās following.
And fundamentally falseā¦ Sheās attacking Biden on the border, when she herself helped write the border bill and VOTED IT DOWN because Trump told her to.
Also the optics are especially bad after he literally just called them out on that. āPretty sure you guys can read right?ā Or whatever he said was classic.
Classic and brutal:
"Iām told my predecessor called Republicans in Congress and demanded they block the bill.Ā He feels it would be a political win for me and a political loser for him.
Itās not about him or me.
Itād be a winner for America!
My Republican friends you owe it to the American people to get this bill done.
We need to act.
And if my predecessor is watching instead of playing politics and pressuring members of Congress to block this bill,Ā join me in telling Congress to pass it!
We can do it together. But hereās what I will not do.
I willĀ notĀ demonize immigrants saying they āpoison the blood of our countryā as he said in his own words.
I willĀ notĀ separate families.
I willĀ notĀ banĀ people from America because of their faith.
Unlike my predecessor, on my first day in office I introduced a comprehensive plan to fix our immigration system, secure the border, and provide a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers and so much more.
Because unlike my predecessor, I know who we are as Americans.
We are theĀ onlyĀ nation in the worldĀ with aĀ heartĀ andĀ soulĀ that draws fromĀ oldĀ andĀ new.
Home to Native Americans whose ancestors have been here for thousands of years. Home to people from every place on Earth.
Some cameĀ freely.
Some chained byĀ force.
Some when famine struck,Ā like my ancestral family in Ireland.
Some to fleeĀ persecution.
Some to chase dreams that are impossibleĀ anywhereĀ but here in America.
Thatās America,Ā where we all come from somewhere,Ā but we are all Americans.
We can fight about the border,Ā or we can fix it. Iām ready to fix it.
Send me the border bill now!"
He is utterly manhandling the Republicans.
Katie Britt has the acting skills of a 6th grader. That shit was weak and phony as fuck.
What was that fool yelling lol.
Also I donāt think Iāve ever seen anyone get kicked out of the State of the Union lmao
[incoherent yelling]
It sounded something similar to free marine, I am waiting for better response too
Iām seeing contradictory reporting, but the consensus is heās a Gold Star Dad who lost his kid in the Afghani evacuation, and was arrested for the interruption.
āRemember Abbey Gate! US Marines!ā
Abbey Gate is a reference to a 2021 suicide bombing during the evacuation of Afghanistan.
The protestor was handcuffed and arrested after being escorted out by security from the House gallery as seen in a photo shared with USA TODAY.
āAbbey Gate!ā Steve Nikoui yelled down at the president. āSecond Battalion, First Marines!ā
Capitol Police escorted Nikoui, 51, out of the chamber around 10:15 p.m. and took him into custody.
He was charged with crowding, obstructing, or incommoding Congress, a misdemeanor that typically results in the offenderās release after paying a $50 fine.
Nikouiās son,Ā Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, was killed by a suicide bomber outside Kabulās international airport while trying to process evacuees from the Biden administrationās botched Afghanistan withdrawal in August 2021.
Free Palestine?
Iām seeing contradictory reporting, but the consensus is heās a Gold Star Dad who lost his kid in the Afghani evacuation, and was arrested for the interruption.
āRemember Abbey Gate! US Marines!ā
Abbey Gate is a reference to a 2021 suicide bombing during the evacuation of Afghanistan.
The protestor was handcuffed and arrested after being escorted out by security from the House gallery as seen in a photo shared with USA TODAY.
āAbbey Gate!ā Steve Nikoui yelled down at the president. āSecond Battalion, First Marines!ā
Capitol Police escorted Nikoui, 51, out of the chamber around 10:15 p.m. and took him into custody.
He was charged with crowding, obstructing, or incommoding Congress, a misdemeanor that typically results in the offenderās release after paying a $50 fine.
Nikouiās son,Ā Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, was killed by a suicide bomber outside Kabulās international airport while trying to process evacuees from the Biden administrationās botched Afghanistan withdrawal in August 2021.
Nikouiās son, Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, was killed by a suicide bomber outside Kabulās international airport while trying to process evacuees from the Biden administrationās botched Afghanistan withdrawal in August 2021.
The botched withdrawl that Trump signed us up for and forced down bidens throat, so he could be blamed for anything that happened whether he honored the agreement or renegged on it.*
same reason trump signed that bill that would cut taxes until Bidens term, where they raise.
Trump signed us up for it, and Biden was right that it needed to be done, but the execution of it was a travesty.
I know, I know, itās not like Biden planned every last detail of it, but when you say something idiotic like:
āThereās going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted offĀ the roof of an embassy in the ā of the United States from Afghanistan.Ā It is not at all comparable.ā
Source:
Then this happens:
And this:
Followed by this:
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kabul-falls-to-taliban-us-withdrawal
and this:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/05/taliban-afghanistan-arms-dealers-weapons-sales-terrorism/
Yeahhhā¦ not a good look.
It was way more extensive than two wordsā¦ but not intelligible.
Iām seeing contradictory reporting, but the consensus is heās a Gold Star Dad who lost his kid in the Afghani evacuation, and was arrested for the interruption.
āRemember Abbey Gate! US Marines!ā
Abbey Gate is a reference to a 2021 suicide bombing during the evacuation of Afghanistan.
The protestor was handcuffed and arrested after being escorted out by security from the House gallery as seen in a photo shared with USA TODAY.
āAbbey Gate!ā Steve Nikoui yelled down at the president. āSecond Battalion, First Marines!ā
Capitol Police escorted Nikoui, 51, out of the chamber around 10:15 p.m. and took him into custody.
He was charged with crowding, obstructing, or incommoding Congress, a misdemeanor that typically results in the offenderās release after paying a $50 fine.
Nikouiās son,Ā Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, was killed by a suicide bomber outside Kabulās international airport while trying to process evacuees from the Biden administrationās botched Afghanistan withdrawal in August 2021.
So a grieving father being used by the republicans to Politicize his kids deathā¦
Totally on brand.
Iām pretty sure the guy is more than happy to, even though Trump literally invited the people that blew up his son to Camp David and handed them Afghanistan.
