• timidgoat@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    I’ve said this before and I will say it again. This period of time will go down in history as a particularly dark time in human history. The fact that not only is this happening, but efforts to stop it from people with real power to change it is incredibly minimal. The world powers letting this happen is perhaps worse that the Zionists doing it.

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      8 months ago

      I hope this will wake people up that our governments don’t work for us and will lead to reform to hold leaders accountable for acting against the will of the people for their personal benefit.

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        I hope this also kills the centrist obsession with “both sides”-ing every political controversy where people on the left are screaming at the top of their lungs “PLEASE SAVE THEM” and people on the right are screaming “KILL THEM ALL” and then sternly scolding the “please save them” crowd that this isn’t the right time and place for that kind of rhetoric and anyways it unnecessarily divides us and gives the “kill them all” people even more power.

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          8 months ago

          People say this and then go me to vote for Biden, a geriatric genocide funder, ie a centrist who pretends to be liberal to get votes and support.

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    8 months ago

    Fuck me, i just saw this while taking a 5€ cappucinno and brunching in a preppy coffee shop, and now i think how fucked up this world is.

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      8 months ago

      It’s easy to blame yourself for this stuff, but the people that are actually responsible take advantage of that empathy. All we can do is verbally condemn the people responsible and in some cases show action by attending or organizing public protests.

      Its equatable to oil companies blaming consumers for plastic waste, oil spills, and fossil fuel emissions.

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    I guess once this is all said and done we’ll say never again, but we did that after WWII and here we are trying to tell the victims of genocide in WWII to remember that it’s a bad fucking thing and don’t do it.

    Just what the fuck.

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      8 months ago

      The funny part about that is… Isn’t Germany supporting this genocide too?

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      8 months ago

      North Korea has been running dozens of literal concentration camps, but dealing with that has been too inconvenient. And it’s only becoming more so as time passes.

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        Yeah, and China, and Myanmar, and it wasn’t my intention to trivialize those - they are anything but. I was more pointing out that the last time this particular group was involved and the reason they’re even on that land at all. The irony of the whole messed up situation.

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        Is my country funding North Korean death camps? Suffering is suffering and all of it matters, but when my tax dollars are paying for it, it just hits a bit differently.

        Israel through AIPAC is also dumping $100m on this election cycle aimed directly at progressive candidates. Fuck Israel hard. We don’t want foreign interference in US elections from Russia, and we don’t want it from Israel either. We should have cut those fuckers off ages ago.

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        8 months ago

        Careful lemmy doesnt appreciate “what about ism” it detracts from their flavour of atrocity support.

        Support the popular atrocity only dont mention any other.

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          Careful lemmy doesnt appreciate “what about ism”

          It’s “whataboutism”, and it’s a poor rhetorical device in any scenario.

          Imagine being caught murdering someone and trying to absolve yourself of responsibility by going “hey but what about all the other mass murderers, huh?”

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    Fucking disgusting. I don’t get how so many can just be ok with this. Forget your holy war or whatever the fuck it is, these are people and this is barbaric.

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      8 months ago

      Israel is worse than that, unfortunately. They are a culmination of Nazi Germany, the colonial British Empire, and the warmongering USA of the last few decades.

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    That’s really rough. The article says he died from a combination of respiratory infection/malnutrition. I bet the respiratory infection was aspiration pneumonia because they were trying to feed him with whatever they could get their hands on due to his cerebral palsy related dysphagia. Ended up just adding to his problems.

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    I hope everyone realizes that most of Israel is against the government and what they are doing.

    I’m surprised after the holocaust that the government has the fucking nerve to inflict the same type of treatment on others.

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      I’m surprised after the holocaust that the government has the fucking nerve to inflict the same type of treatment on others.

      On this, I’m with you. It’s so ironic it’s absolutely wild and disappointing and depressing.

      I hope everyone realizes that most of Israel is against the government and what they are doing.

      Regarding this, it’s very difficult to “realize” when most of the media portrays the Israelis as super racist scumbags. I can’t believe some of the things they are shouting at each other (both sides actually but especially the Israelis), and especially considering the other thing you mentioned regarding their history during WWII, and prior. The media (social and otherwise) is showing us video evidence of widespread racism against the Palestinians, all the way from the country leaders (on both sides, granted). It’s hard to deny having seen those images. But it’s also hard to judge how selective the reporting is.

      I, for one, have not “realized”, because I can never have the data necessary.

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    Sounds terrible Hamas should release the hostages so the war can stop and kids won’t suffer anymore.

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      Yes, everything will be fine in Gaza as long as no-one fights back against the ethnic cleansing. If Hamas just asks nicely, the Zionists will probably reconsider their stance and stop the genocide.

      #/S

      https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

      “We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers. At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence,” the experts said. They also noted that photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances were also reportedly taken by the Israeli army and uploaded online.

      “Taken together, these acts may constitute grave violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, and amount to serious crimes under international criminal law that could be prosecuted under the Rome Statute,” the experts said. “Those responsible for these apparent crimes must be held accountable and victims and their families are entitled to full redress and justice,” they added.

      But that’s probably Hamas’s fault as well, right?

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        If Hamas just asks nicely, the Zionists will probably reconsider their stance and stop the genocide.

        Unironically, yes. There’s been multiple attempts at negotiation in the past, where Israel was even willing to hand over land they had conquered before, for a two-state-solution. Hamas always declined, because they don’t want to negotiate with Israel. They want a world without Israel. And they’d rather have every single Palestinian die than accept their loss and sue for peace.

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          Haha, yeah, suure m8.

          “If we just comply with German demands, I’m sure the Jews will be safe”

          You’re really pretending that you don’t even understand that for longer than you’ve been alive, there’s been systemic effort to drive out Palestinians from what I Israel considers it’s land? You’re seriously pretending you’re wholly unaware that “zionism” as a concept even exists?

          https://press.un.org/en/2023/gapal1454.doc.htm

          #Case Before International Court of Justice Will Expose Israel’s Prolonged Illegal Policies, Permanent Observer Tells Palestinian Rights Committee

          “The current Israeli Government is the most extreme rightist Government in the history of the Governments of Israel,” he observed. It includes fascist ministers considered by the Israeli legal system as promoting terrorism. One such minister who has advanced a racist manifesto also announced that his and his family’s right to remain alive is greater than the right of the Palestinian people to circulate in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

          Michael Lynk, former Special Rapporteur, then briefed the Committee on the study it commissioned regarding the legality of the Israeli occupation, underscoring that “no one can say the subject has been treated lightly or thinly”. While many features of the 56-year-old Israeli occupation are illegal in themselves, the study’s central aim is to answer the question of whether the occupation itself is illegal and — if so — to outline the consequences for Israel, the international community and the United Nations.

          He noted that the study highlights three peremptory norms that can determine if an occupation has become illegal, including whether the occupying Power has moved to annex any part of the occupied territory; whether that Power has breached the right to self-determination of the people under occupation; and whether that Power has instituted policies of discrimination or apartheid in the occupied territory. A breach of any of these norms would indicate that an occupation has become illegal; a breach of all three would be conclusive evidence of such illegality. The study concludes that Israel — as the occupying Power — “is in gross violation of all three of these norms and is, therefore, a bad-faith occupier”.

          He also noted that the study finds many parallels between the situation in the State of Palestine today and South Africa’s apartheid rule over Namibia 50 years ago. Due to the illegality of its occupation, Israel is obliged to withdraw from the Occupied Palestinian Territory immediately, completely and unconditionally. Further, Israel is responsible for reparations. The international community must move away from the “land-for-peace” paradigm and towards Israel’s complete withdrawal to the 1967 lines.

          I skipped paragraphs, read the whole article from the link

          That is from last August. It’s horrifying to see them talking about the dead of 2023 — by that point in time — “including 44 children”. As the number is now over 12 300, JUST for the dead children.

          It’s not Palestinian who keep yelling about “human animals”. It’s Israel who keeps pushing rhetoric like that:

          https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/01/1145937

          #UN world court calls for prevention of genocidal acts in Gaza

          Turning to the article 3 of the Genocide Convention, which prohibits “conspiracy to commit genocide” and public incitement to commit genocide, the judge said that the ICJ had taken note of a number of statements made by senior Israeli officials.

          These included comments by Yoav Galant, Defense Minister of Israel, who reportedly told troops on the border with the enclave that they were fighting “human animals” who were the “ISIS of Gaza”.

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      The deal Isael offered was 6-weeks ceasefire for all hostages, then once we take all hostages and reload our ammo, we will go back to boming you again

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      Hello, average bloodthirsty psychotic American. Tell me more about how little you understand the world outside your borders.