• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      And LGBTQ were also victims of their genocide.

      Like, the largest demographic of victims were Jewish, but there was a bunch of other groups getting the same treatment.

      The difference is LGBTQ was hated by both sides. After Alan Turing contributed more to stopping the nazis than probably any other single person, England chemically castrated him due to his sexual preference which likely contributed to his suicide.

      Fascists always prioritize the easiest targets first

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          One side fought for them. Or, at the very least, freed them when they won.

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            What?

            The war wasn’t fought to stop genocide of any group, it was because Germany and their allies kept invading and attacking other countries.

            This is what I’m complaining about.

            People learn a feel good version of why WW2 happened in school and run with it. But it’s not really that accurate, it’s just what we tell kids in school.

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            Probably easier to stick with “at the very least, freed them”.

            Pearl Harbor was the rallying cry that brought America together (mostly) to fight the Axis powers. Prior to that, isolationist (and Anti-Semitic) groups such as the America First Committee were growing in popularity. To say America was fighting for the Jews in WW2 may be technically correct based on who was responsible for the Holocaust, but it was more the byproduct of who America’s enemies were at the time, rather than being a primary motivator. Coming in as the savior to a population being persecuted is rarely the real reason wars are fought.

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            To get them out of europe. Anti-semitism was not a purely german thing, they were just the first to resort to genocide.

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              No, they were not the first. They just the ones who did it so thoroughly we came up with a name for it.

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              Yes…

              I’m sorry, what are you confused about?

              Jewish people made up about half the victims, and was the only demographic who then got their own country given to them after it was stolen from the indengious population.

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                The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable. And stolen? They lost a world war.

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                  The concept of there being an “indigenous population” on a land that humanity has occupied and fought over for 10000 years is laughable

                  Hold up…

                  You don’t think Africa has any indigenous populations?

                  You think a random collection of Europeans can say they deserve that land and take it?

                  Like, that’s apartheid South Africa mate… Even modern South Africa doesn’t defend that anymore, which is why they’re fighting Israel in the courts today.

                  And stolen? They lost a world war.

                  What?

                  Are you saying that you think the native population of Israel fought with the Nazis?

                  Who told you that?

                  I don’t think you’re intentionally spreading misinformation, but that’s what you’re doing even if you somehow believe it

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                    Not only are you unaware of the Ottoman Empire and its role in the World War 1 but you also forget that said land has been controlled by almost a dozen different empires several of which wipe out the previous inhabitants and installed their own.

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      They were pro abortion to 148th trimester adults! Well…if they were jewish (or a handfull of other things)

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      Not exactly, Nazies take on many forms. American Nazies want more slaves. Minorities need to have more babies… as long as they stay poor and uneducated.