With the month long heat wave.
“Why don’t you call anymore?”
“Climate change has existed for years, it will not harm us”
They move the goalposts.
“It’s going to be a problem in Africa”
“It’s going to be a problem in 50 years”
"It’s futile to do anything unless China stops polluting "
“Electric cars pollute more than ordinary cars”
I don’t have climate change denialists in my life. That’s usually indicative of other beliefs and values that don’t jive with mine, and we end up being incompatible as friends.
Nothing. They just talk about Biden destroying the economy with Hunter’s laptop and Hillary’s buttery males.
It was an abnormally cold and wet winter. Climate deniers here are basically saying “shit happens”
I do not have climate change deniers as friends because idiots cannot be my friend.
By now it’s pretty obvious what is happening and what probably will happen. The ones unable to understand will inevitably have a hard time and a lower chance of passing on their genes which is fine by me.
Hi I’m an idiot and would like to be your friend
THEY SAID NO!!! GET LOST
You wanna be friends?
Yes absolutely. I need a second to get through Zombies Ate My Neighbors.
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Understanding has nothing to do with a person’s chances of survival or their children’s chances. The biggest determinants will be wealth/poverty and location. Plenty of ordinary people who understand perfectly well what’s going on will suffer and die, while fools who can buy their way to a safer place will survive.
“It’s summer what do you expect of course it’s going to be hot”
“I’m following the real scientist. They’re called climatists and they just all banded together and said ‘stop all this bullshit reporting’ to the mainstream media!”
My soul left my body and I died.
No idea, I’ve either changed their minds or stopped talking to them.
I have expelled them so I do not know.
Some are now pivoting to “Climate change is good so we shouldn’t do anything about it.” A US representative fork Wisconsin said that recently, since it means Wisconsin would be warmer during the winter.
Never mind how the whole southwest will become a desert in a lot of projections.
“It’s only natural” seems to be the go to.
The people in my personal life, though, are mostly just EXTREMELY wary of just about any information at all.
They are more comfortable putting shit down to some conspiracy, rather than looking at how awful some people are outright.
I don’t think they want to admit, or submit to the hopelessness of the situation, especially economically. So they rather keep themselves busy with petty bs.
Wow - are people really disbanding friendships over climate change stuff? Are you sure you were that good of friends prior? Id question all that. As for “deniers” , I dont think people questioning all of this are deniers, they are simply asking legit questions. Remember, this Climate thing has been being pushed/sold to us for like 60+ years now. We’ve been “Dead” numerous times now but pretty much none of it has come to fruition. So, can you blame people for being a tad skeptical? I dont.
I also get frustrated with those that seem to ignore the very real concerns of the “working person” who finds it a little hypocritical that many of the loudest climate change activists(celebs, athletes, politicians, etc.) tend to NOT walk the talk. So, they can fly private jets, own 4 homes, two yachts and have Lamborghini collections but Im expected to eat bugs, drive a lame EV and ditch my perfectly good appliances? Yeah, sorry, thats a tough sell, IMO.
I see some clean energy initiatives that do appear to make some sense. Slow adoption, logical solutions, etc. should be the way. Not slam dunk, draconian changes that wreck our energy girds and reliability. There should be a happy-medium here is what Im getting at. Im tired of the extremes and most people seem to be also.
As for “deniers” , I dont think people questioning all of this are deniers, they are simply asking legit questions. Remember, this Climate thing has been being pushed/sold to us for like 60+ years now.
If you deny 60 years of research how are you not a denier? The only people with doubts at this point have no clue about science, sorry.
60 years of doom, gloom and sure destruction which has resulted in… nothing. Your science isnt working out. Its clear that we dont fully understand how this all works as we only have data from a tiny fraction of the Earths total history. Again, the predictions that have been harped on over the last several decades have all turned out to be false of greatly exaggerated. Those are the real facts.
Hey, at least you’re answering OP’s question.
Maybe so - you’ve also made your position on this clearly evident. Question nothing, just do what you’re told. Thats cool. :)
lol where’d you get that line from?
What line?
question nothing, just do what you’re told.
I’m not even going to bother giving much detail because it seems like it won’t matter, but just about everything you said in this comment is wrong. We’ve had the hottest temperatures on record this year, and this has happened many time for years slowly getting worse. How is that nothing? Sure, we’re not dead, but no one (reasonable) predicted that.
As for the data we have, it goes a lot longer than human history. There are many ways to get that information. We also know CO2 traps heat better. You can test this yourself if you feel like it. It’s simple stuff to understand, but some people want you to think it’s the “elite climate scientists” pushing something you can’t understand.
Why is it wrong? Climate disasters have been being predicted and spewed about for a long time. What I understand is that there is more here than meets the eye. Look into more and you’ll understand better. Try sources without agendas for best results.
Climate disasters have been happening. You’re just told that they were supposedly predicting sudden collapse, which is not the case. It’s a slow ramping up, eventually becoming (likely) unstopable but still it will be relatively slow.
For example, ice is white so it reflects sunlight (aka heat). As it melts, the reflective index of the earth decreases and we absorb more heat, melting more ice, reducing the reflective index, and so on. Here’s the arctic sea ice levels, including for 2023 so far. It’s way down. It’s just data and doesn’t have “an agenda.” The people telling you that some other people have “an agenda” have an agenda though.
The doom and gloom predictions have always been about slow but inexorable changes in the climate. Not that suddenly a mega hurricane is going to rip Florida out of the ground and toss it into the ocean, but that weather is going to get worse and more extreme, that sea levels will rise, and more and more places will gradually become uninhabitable as conditions get worse. There won’t be single things that you can point to and say “that one was global warming”, it’s about trends that are harmful for us in the long term. If you eat a chocolate bar’s worth more calories than you burn every day, it sounds like doom and gloom to say you’ll gain 200 pounds if you don’t change anything, and you won’t be able to point to any one meal as something to be concerned about because that’s not really out of the ordinary for a day… but slowly and steadily, you’ll gain weight, and if nothing changes you will get there eventually.
And even though you aren’t owed dramatic destruction, and shouldn’t require it to believe the thousands of people who study this as their life’s work and all agree that things are dire and not getting better fast enough… you’ve literally just lived through the hottest twenty or so days in recorded history. Is that a coincidence, do you think?
Here ya go. The “experts” have a terrible batting average. Its embarrassingly bad. The end of the article/listing even has a quote from an IPCC scientist about how all of this nonsesne is mostly just financially driven aka “wealth redistribution” (surprise!) versus actually about the climate. Sorry.
Talk about an agenda. Wow. Get a better resource. Of course businesses want you to think nothing needs to change. That would mean they make less profit and maybe have to do things differently.
30 years ago it was predicted that the Gulf stream would collapse and that’s about to happen in the next years. Coral reefs are dead and in general dead zones in the oceans are spreading more and more. You can’t get insurance in some US states anymore, but that all nothing, since it’s not threatening enough for you personally?
I never really knew anyone that would straight up deny science. I mean i’ve met people before that are that stupid but they were never in my life.
