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    Wow, a hugely wealthy oligarchical capitalist facilitating the rise of fascism?

    How completely unpredictable, with no historical precedent whatsoever!

    Who could have possibly expected this?!

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        Man… that’s one of the things that seems like a conspiracy theory to a great many people, but just actually is true.

        Dude literally got caught doing massive amounts of money laundering for literal Nazis during WW2 and by all rights should have been convicted of treason.

        Its like how most people don’t know that IBM machines enabled the Germans to tabulate and keep track of the holocaust, that their machines spit out the UIDs that were tattooed onto the victims at the death camps…

        … I think that ‘War is a Racket’ by Smedley Butler really needs to be added to the basic K-12 curriculum alongside 1984 and Brave New World…

        But oh oops, the Republicans already destroyed our education systems, nevermind.

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      How much money do these fuckers need before they are content enough to not rat fuck American democracy so they can eek out a few percent more on their billions?

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        … The answer is infinity.

        Capitalism requires constant growth, constant extraction, constant return in investment, constant tendency toward monopolies and wealth disparity until you end up with a neo feudalistic caste society.

        You can either attempt to restrain and regulate the system, which we are currently doing a rather poor job of, overthrow the system, which is nigh impossible given the precarity of the average prole, or you can just watch as we head closer and closer to… some kind of hybrid of the handmaids tale and elysium.

        … Or, maybe, escape to a slightly less insane foreign country, but you’re gonna need a lot of money or a very lucrative skill set as an employee to do that as anything other than an illegal immigrant.

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          You know, I always wondered where the professionals ended up in Elysium. Like there are the medical professionals taking care of the earthlings, but the life saving machines are in Elysium so they aren’t needed up there.

          But like, what about the software folks? Like there’s an epic shit ton of software going on in that movie that just kind of gets handwaved.

          Passification is handled by robots and crazy humans. Other than the one executive who comes down, where are his direct reports? There is no way he was interested in the factory management, that would be a middle management job. And then what about accountants? Researchers designing the tech on Elysium?

          It never really made a whole lot of sense that Elysium was just the rich. They can’t just “get” everything they want up there, it had to come from earth.

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          No, capitalism is feudalism with loot boxes! Because I could win the lottery.

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      The motto of the Post is literally “Democracy dies in Darkness”, and it was adopted immediately after Trump was elected. It is deliberately positioned as pro-Democrat and anti Trump. I didn’t have a high esteem of Bezos, but I am still disappointed.

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      The guy that “gifted” millions to political commentators from CNN tries to influence politics? No way!

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    Has this f*ing idiot never heard of the Streisand Effect? The fact that they broke a decades long tradition to do this makes a louder thump than their endorsement would have.

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    The Washington Post: “Democracy Dies in Darkness”

    Bozos:

    Turn the Light off, turn the light off.

    I had to settle for the Jurassic Park GIF because I couldn’t find the one of Homer Simpson using his gun to turn off the lights. If anyone has that GIF, please hook me up.

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      Maximum wealth law. Once you’re worth more than 100 million, 100% of any new income goes to a designated fund for social programs.

      100 million is enough money that there is still no real limit to how pampered your life can be, so there’s no argument that the rule would hurt anyone.

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        There is a big accounting difference in use the term “wealth” and “income”, especially when the wealthy take out a loan from stock holdings and not pay income tax.

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    Rep. Ted Lieu, a Democrat from California, in his own tweet on the news wrote, “The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.”

    I don’t know if this is the free press cowering, or the free press being bought out by rich people. Either way, it’s some bullshit.

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      Private ownership of a news outlet breaks every definition of “free” in “free press”.

      A “free press” no longer exists.

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        Eh… no? Most free press is privately owned. Just not by billionaires who influence the content.

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          When the billionaires who own the media and the highest level of government are in bed together so long as the government continues to tailor it’s policies to ensure that the wealthy stay wealthy, then the line is so blurred it might as well not exist.

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          Maybe non-profit would be best. Incentives to encourage good journalism, but not trying to raise the bottom line every year, chopping costs and spamming mass amounts of AI garbage because I’d bet 100 shitty articles is worth more than 1 good article for their bottom line.

          Easy access links to the journalists other works, peer reviews from other non-profit and about me profiles can also help people discern bias.

          I’m no expert though, so I’m sure someone has tried it and found making money is better for their paychecks

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            What if it already exists, but you, like many others, don’t read it and instead continue to passively consume the very media you’re complaining about? Making better journalism doesn’t mean multiple generations of people hooked on social-media-feed dopamine hits will read it.

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              I’m subbed to my local NPR’s daily top news stories. Highly recommend folks in the US look to see if their local station has a similar program or find the closest one.

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      My first reaction was that it was cowering in fear, since trump keeps threatening newspapers. But after thinking about it, why would Bezos give a fuck if trump threatens the paper? He wants his paper to be a trump propaganda outlet because he wants trump to win. Not because he likes trump but because he wants the fascist movement to win so he can get richer (see Blue Origin govt contracts for one thing). Because having hundreds of billions of dollars is simply not enough, so fuck democracy.

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    “The most consequential election in our country, a choice between Fascism and Democracy, and you sit out? Cowards. Unethical, fearful cowards,” wrote one reader.

    Haha, yep.

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      Honestly don’t know what’s worse. People who don’t vote or people who vote 3rd party in protest.

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        You are worse than both, because you’re insulting them which in turn undermines your own goals.

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          “Hahahaha don’t you see that by being mildly mean to those sitting idle while fascism takes hold you were in fact just as bad?”

          That’s how you sound.

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            If you really want Harris to win, and you’re working hard to help make that happen, I totally respect your efforts. But your actions are an obvious attempt to alienate potential voters. Why would they want to associate with someone like you, who treats them with disdain? Of course they wouldn’t.

            So then there’s an obvious question. Which is more important to you, Harris winning the election or trash talking people you dislike? I know what it looks like, because we can all read what you wrote, but how do you feel?

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          Your comment would have more weight if we lived in a country with parliamentary or ranked choice elections. But we don’t.

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            Nothing I wrote depends on parliamentary or ranked choice elections. Perhaps you were replying to the wrong comment?

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      Anyone who’s still using Amazon and wants to keep democracy is drowning in cognitive dissonance. Amazon is a bigger threat to decent lives for non-millionaires than any single politician, even granting that Trump is a nightmare.

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      Just spoke to my parents. Uninterrupted subscribers since '73.

      I called them right after canceling my own subscription and they’d already canceled theirs.

      I hope Bezos is happy losing 51-year patrons of his paper.

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        Look, that’s honestly quite sad and very telling of the way things are, but I audibly snorted at the idea of Jeff Bezos noticing his income slightly lower this week, panicking, scrambling to find The Borbendorfs’ payment. A single tear wells up, but he wipes it away frantically. Never let them see. Never let them know how it hurts.

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          Yes, and that’s exactly the point, isn’t it?

          There are some areas of business that are still built on trust and personal relationships and people trying to right by each other so they can each support their families.

          But that’s not the case in modern politics or tech. It doesn’t matter if you have a relationship dating back decades. It’s inconsequential to a billionaire who’s earning a margin on an all the goods - and increasing share of which are brazenly counterfeit - that he sells globally.

          Bezos doesn’t care about you, or me, or my aged parents. It’s not only that he doesn’t care about us, but instead that the billionaire class in general doesn’t care about anything besides contingencies to maximize profits and mitigate losses, real-world consequences be damned.

          He will never notice any of us. It will not meaningfully affect his paycheck. It is up to each of us, including you, to determine whether to construct meaning in a symbolic act of protest, if an effectual act of protest is no longer an option.

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            I know. I know. I’m already a converted vegetarian or “bad at it vegan”. I’m spending a fortune on an EV car payment. My electricity is from a wind farm. I’m off all the socials. I’ve been recycling properly for decades and they tell me it was pointless. I’m getting pretty tired of personal responsibility. Can we do the guillotines now? I can’t make the first move. I’ve got kids and a mortgage. Start rounding them up and I can do some small part there too.

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    Bezos has tons of federal government contracts. When Trump was president last time he went after Amazon and others he disliked to get their contracts cancelled. Bezos is concerned that if Trump wins, Trump could fuck with his contracts.

    That’s the reason. It’s fucked up and more evidence of why news media shouldn’t be owned by fuckhead billionaires. Shameful day in WaPos history. Cowardice. Grovelling to placate Trump for the benefit of the paper 's owner.

    Tin foil hat: I am somewhat concerned that our oligarch overlords seem to be hedging in a way that they think Trump might win.

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      I’m extremely concerned. LA times backing out too. There’s no reason not to, unless they’re afraid the psycho toddler dictator is going to be holding the reigns next year. Fucking traitorous cowards, money over country.

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    This is that “liberal news media” that Republicans keep yammering on about.

    The one that’s owned by six corporations.

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      As long as you mean ‘neo liberal open to fascism’ then yeah I guess they’re all liberal…

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    If Kamala really wanted to get back at Bezos for this, the best thing she could do is promote union membership in tech and in the press.

    It has been Bezos’ kryptonite for years, and while I hold zero hope that unions will grow in popularity in the US, having a president push for them might be enough to make big businesses shut up.

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      She shouldn’t be “getting back” at people. That’s Trump’s MO, and a major part of the reason that makes him so unsuited for the role. She should do what’s best for the country. So ultimately I agree she should be pushing for unions.

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      Bezos is worth so much there is no hope of a single president reigning him in.

      It would require a group of countries all going at him at once. Otherwise we are not only stuck with Bezos for our whole life but his children and family will also be unstoppable.

      These men should be disrupted. The “move fast and break things” was their mantra. Now they demand nobody move and nothing changes including wealth vectors.

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        If there is one thing that authoritarians are any good for, that is using their unlimited power to deflate millionaires’ ambitions and keeping them in line e.g. Jack Ma https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56448688 (but yea, despots will help billionaires fuck everyone over if it benefits said despot enough)

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          Not really Nazi Germany was a robber baron’s wet dream. All those train tracks in and out of the concentration camps were build with US investors money.