I’m curious to hear if you have any thoughts or ideas about this. As a developer I understand very well how Lemmy works, and cant tell at all what might be difficult or confusing.
Asking such a question to current users may lead to a survival bias. As people are already here it means there were no critical difficulties which could make them leave . More helpful would be to ask ones who have dropped attempts to be here because of some difficulties. Probably a way to leave a feedback or report an issue on a joinlemmy website could be helpful.
I made a GitHub issue on this already, but being able to go to a community or user from a federated instance by typing in a plaintext URL, instead of going by community and user IDs, which change depending on the instance you’re viewing from, would be great. Something like
domain.tld/c/community .tld
for the community on that instance. I’ve definitely had the issue of taking a while to find the same post or community on another instance.This is one of those little UX changes that would go a long way in making Lemmy and the federation concept it’s built upon be easier to understand for every user.
It’s kind of weird that most federated platforms don’t have plaintext URLs for content originating from other instances.
This is doable, and I like it better than the current way.
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The reason why its difficult is that the captcha is case sensitive, but that isnt indicated anywhere. That has already been changed to make it ignore case, but not released yet.
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You mean Lemmur? It is from a different author.
The web client in mobile allows that perfectly.
A getting started video tutorial? I think a video will be useful for new users. Most of the users from Reddit will probably be able to use lemmy without any issues
Many respond with specific issues, but for me it’s just the federated structure. For non tech persons this may be a difficult concept to grasp and even though I programm a lot, some things got me confused, because I’ve never used anything like it. List for readability:
- if I remember correctly I had to choose one instance for my account. (I had no idea if I get any restrictions depending on what instance I choose)
- How can I visit or follow another instance and more importantly where can I find a list of instances? (I am using lemmur, but this may be a general point of confusion)
Maybe I missed some obvious things, but a getting started video would be great :)
Each instance has its own rules, and admins can decide which other instances to federate with. You also wont see all content from other instances by default, particularly if you are on a small instance.
Instance list: https://join-lemmy.org/instances
Federation getting started: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_getting_started.html
Improvements to the docs are always good, and if someone wants to make a video about this, that would also be helpful.
Muting communities. Unsure if this is a lemmy or lemmur issue (I only use lemmur) It has been mentioned/asked before and I will +1 it. With the amount of c/ and instances growing, not having this will be chaotic in the long term. I like to see what is outside of my subscriptions for serendipity, but there are c/s that I would really like not to see ever.
i agree that blocking a community would be a very useful feature
We’re working on user and community blocking, its one of our next features.
Like a negative subscription… I guess that could be useful, but IMHO just subscribe to more communities?
IMHO just subscribe to more communities?
Not an appropriate solution to stumble upon new ones as I said. I’m talking about the main feed not the subscribed one.
If you want to stumble on new ones you will always see some you don’t like…
If they are new ones I won’t know if I want to see them or not until I actually seem them first… You are missing my point, I don’t know how to make it clearer.
I want to leave the door open to see new communities that i don’t know, while muting ones I know and i don’t want to see (they are not many rn, just a couple, but Im imagining it escalating in the future). Currently you either see everything or you only see the subscribed ones. there is no middleground
I can try further with an example…
Dramatization Imagine there’s a c/drugs and George does not like it. Everyday he comes to lemmy to see what’s new, but he has to go through the posts of this idiots smoking joints that have been posting a lot lately. It makes him feel revolted because his best friend died of a drug related issue. If you tell George “just look at your subscribed feed and you won’t see them” that is not ideal because it will make him miss the c/snooker that was created recently, which is a shame as he is really into snooker. He is not subbed to it and he won’t know of it’s existence by going through the ones he is subscribed. The only way there there is right now to know about c/snooker is to go through the dozens of posts that those guys at c/drugs have been spamming that will make him feel not not so good. Surely he also is not that big on c/poodles and c/womenshoes do not mean anything to him, but that is not really an issue.
Does it help?
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I still think a theme precisely imitating the old reddit design would go a long way in helping new users navigate the site. I am still bothered by the fact that lemmy’s interface looks and acts like new reddit. I know its more “modern” but I feel like reddits modern users are exactly the opposite of who we want to target if were aiming to keep quality high on the site though I suspect as the flagship instance keep quality high will be difficult no matter what.
Lemmy is not a Reddit clone. I also dont think that Reddits problems are caused by its redesign, but by its administration policies and profit incentive. That said, we have documentation for making new themes, and someone could create one that looks like old Reddit.
By the way, lemmy.ml is not a flagship instance.
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I’m personally against reputation systems, especially those that introduce barriers to entry: I don’t want to make it difficult for new users to start here, make communities, etc.
The main thing is that we have enough moderators, and strong mod tools to make cleanup easy, because that’s unavoidable even with reputation based systems. IE you might limit them from doing anything but commenting, yet still troll accounts will do everything they’re able to do.
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