There is a spector haunting Lemmy, the spector of trans people that disagree with you.

Liberals on Lemmy are ridiculously fast to let fly all sorts of conspiracy theories if it means discrediting any trans people to the left of them. Worse still, is that this behaviour is reinforced by Lemmy mods, look at this ban Cowbee copped for the crime of being allegedly uncivil to this transphobe:

Every day, I’m glad for you fuckers building at least this tiny queer safespace on the internet. Death to the cis, etc.

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    ledditeur’s Ol’ Reliable:

    why aren’t they slobbing my knob once I’ve simply declared myself an ally? They must all be fake trans

    But seriously, Cowbee you have the patience of a saint

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    Just read the libs’ reaction to this interaction on sh.itjust.works (TW: lots of transphobia) and sh.it’s just absolutely awful. Just and endless stream of victim-blaming and doubling down on their transphobic crap.

    It’s pretty much just the top comment that’s somewhat decent (except the last paragraph). The rest of the users (including the fucking admin) have no shame at all handwaving all the bigotry away, some even saying stuff that’s way more transphobic than Yerbouti’s.

    Fuck this is depressing! madeline-sadeline

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      Abbreviate shitjustworks and you immediately realise why there is absolutely no reason engaging with anyone on that particular lemmy. The abbreviation is not an accident.

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      On the brightside, this absolute gem came out of it (no CW needed):

      “Cowbee isn’t just another tankie. He knows his theory and will use it to dazzle you with bullshit.”

      lenin-sure

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        This has to be the greatest compliment a lib can give. “Do not trust this trickster spirit, they will use a vast knowledge ancient magicks to trick you into disagreeing with the US State Department”

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          Truth be told I kinda hate that I’m getting some degree of enioyment out of the absolute terror I seem to strike in the hearts of the MWoG weirdos, when at the same time these people are genuinely defending and fighting for their rights to not only be transphobic, but enforce that.

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          “Enemy is weak yet strong” shenanigans. I somehow have a multifaceted reputation as being “contradictory,” yet “knowing theory.” Some other banger responses to my ban:

          “Alright thanks good to know. Thank you for taking such action. I have rarely seen someone acting so innocent yet at the same time being so disingenuous.”

          Which part was disingenuous? I spent the majority of that thread calling out transphobia, do they think I did that for personal gain?

          “That guy is so annoying with his faux-neutrality/naivety. What a phony, good riddance.”

          From the same person that went on a Sephiroth rant about how Hexbear is bigoted, then ran to MWoG to

          CW: Transphobia

          Complain about a conspiracy theory of Russia and China “transing the youths” to create radicals against the United States.

          Incredibly, deeply unserious people.

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      (also, who the fuck says “biological men” in the transgender context, its called transgender women)

      Conservatives and other right wing that’s who. That’s why you hear tankie leadership saying it.

      They really love just making shit up and expect no one to check, don’t they?

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      The same people: “what do you mean blue maga, definition? Debatemedebatemedebatemedebateme” debate-me-debate-me

      Same admin who was butthurt over people hating on amerikkka in a different thread

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    Now this is the stuff that should be on dbos power tripping bastards comm, not people spamming they got banned from ml for being a shit head.

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    It’s truly depressing seeing the continuous right-wing slide of Lemmy.world. It isn’t surprising, of course, but they’d rather ban people calling out transphobia for being “aggressive” than address the transphobes, and that says a lot about their moderators actual stances.

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      Your comment wasn’t even that aggressive. It is fully within the bounds of civil discourse by their standards. You’ve clearly pinned them as transphobic in a way they can’t even reconcile, so instead of dealing with this contradiction you’ve presented, they bury you. It’s everything they claim places like Russia or China are about. The federation model of decentralizing services really does lead to little fiefdoms run by petty lords.

      Edit: But we love our petty lords here, don’t we folks!? alphys-anxious

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        100%. They side with transphobes when it’s Leftists calling them out, because it helps obscure the nature of their particular method of censorship. Now, censorship can be a good thing when combatting misinformation and bigotry, of course, but that’s the opposite of .world’s methods here.

        Defederation is the most you can do to censor an entire group of people. It looks less obvious because you don’t see removed comments, but it shuts out speech. Leftists are generally more up front and honest about what they censor and why, while .world and sh.itjust.works try to pretend that they don’t censor at all.

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      odd that they also accused me of being “aggressive” as well when i rarely comment there; sounds coordinated.

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    I’m finding that a lot of irl liberal spaces have been weird about transphobia this past year. I’m connecting the dots with his thread, civility is just “I’m transphobic but I’m not gonna say it”.

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      Wasn’t iamaqtpie the one who was complaining about anti-american bias earlier this week?

      That guy is just an up-front chud

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      The rival nation state’s devious, psychological warfare tactics of… helping people realize who they really are? Makes it sound like your rivals are the good guys.

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      Peaked back into that thread, a gem: (no CW needed)

      “Cowbee isn’t just another tankie. He knows his theory and will use it to dazzle you with bullshit.”

      Lmao he-laughed

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      Yep, imaqtpie tried to tell me Hexbear is “more bigoted” yet is peddling alt-right conspiracy theories that

      cw: transphobia

      Foreign nations are “transing” the youth.

      Unsurprising from the instance that maintains MWoG and NCD.

      liberal-scratched-1 liberal-scratched-2

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              Sometimes I get morbid curiosity, that Frisish user apparently has me listed as “tankie influencer” which is kinda cute. The biggest thing though is that it’s overwhelmingly clear that any vague notions of being “left, just anti-tankie” is immediately overrun with defense of transphobia, anti-leftism, anti-DEI, anti-“wokeness” alt-right talking points, and it’s abundantly clear that no user there actually has read Marx.

              As an example, one visitor had recently read Anti-Dühring from Engels and was confused as to why a MWoG post was titled something along the lines of “banned for knowing Marxsim better than an ML,” yet the body of the post showing the supposed knowledgable user’s takes contradicted what they had read with Engels. The mod on MWoG proceded to talk down to them and claim the Bolsheviks were anti-Marxist for the NEP and that it was the SRs and Mensheviks who knew better, and that the Nazi led Hungarian revolt was a “real worker movement.”

              Very silly place indeed.

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          That part was especially baffling. Like, you’re getting accused of transphobia and are defending it, and you wonder why trans people flock to explicitly trans-positive instances? Do they not see the connection there, that perhaps the queer side may indeed have a point?

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      “How dare those trans people cause their own transphobia instead of just sucking it up so we can maintain decorum with people who violently fantasize about hurting them!”

      If it’s such a small, niche issue, then why the fuck can’t you just tell reactionaries to fuck off?

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      I think everyone forgots the secret program of Russia and China to forcetrans people. I had tens of people in my city growing up report Putin AND Xi Jinping coming over and injecting them will a new set of hormones. That is what happened to me too. I was talking to a friend online about the US political system being deeply transphobic and bigoted, and I heard the door being slammed on. I walked over because I thought it was the humble US police accidentally coming in to shoot me, then the door caved in. From the dust I see the silloettes of Xi Jinping, and Putin. They rush in, with Putin tackling me, and Xi injecting me. I scream in agony. I am injected with 2.5 mg of Estradiol cypionate in oil. Xi activates my now biological codephrase to be a communist agent, and tells me to repeat this injection weekly. Since then, every week on the dot, I have received 2.5 mg to inject myself with. They even find me when I’m traveling. I took a day off and visited my now girlfriend’s house (she’s also the leader of my local CCP chapter in my area (power dynamics)), and forgot to take my weekly injection. As I arrived to the entrance to the apartment building, who else was standing there, but Xi Jinping. I tried to run away, but it felt as if time had been frozen, and I couldn’t move. He spoke some words in Mandarin I couldn’t understand, and injected me with my hormones from 20 feet away. Suddently, he’s gone. Time starts flowing as normal. Did I hallucinate all that? I do not know. I just continue on to meet my girlfriend.

      I got about 4 sentences in and realized I was just writing fan fiction at this point but its funny to me so I had to commit

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      07 huge thanks to Xi Jinping for personally coming to every trans girl’s computer, installing Fallout New Vegas or Victoria 3, and watching the dominos fall in place. We owe him a massive debt for pushing Western civilization forward, we wouldn’t have 100 Gecs or the People’s Joker without him.

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      jesus-christ this goes beyond brainworms

      This is full on brain scramblies

      How do you think this and not realize you’re only a degree or two away from quoting Nazi shit about how “The Jews are causing Social Decay”

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        They’re centrists, they’ve got nuanced opinions, neither capitalism nor communism but rather a third position somewhere in the middle. treatler

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      This is just straight up rightwing transphobic conspiracy theory. If there is political dialogue in US hyperfocusing on a “hyper-niche” issue it is because of conservatives who revolve their life around bodies of trans people, yet somehow the “rival psyops” isn’t existence of said conservatives who make legislation in entire states that affect 1 or 2 trans people but existence of trans people who “suddenly realized they are trans”.

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    Didn’t .world admins make a new rule to enforce flat-earthism? Maybe they are also enforcing transphobia now…

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    this is so off the wall, what can you even say? you can really feel the political culture of mainstream-ish liberal spaces regressing the last 10, especially 5 years. academically i know why it happens but it’s still kinda mind boggling to witness first hand