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    1 day ago

    …because it’s really important that meteorology calculations are done with the correct conservative perspective, lest you predict the weather in too woke a way or start believing in climate change and other elitist liberal dogma?

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    From the same people who scream and bitch and moan about their right of free speech. It’s only their right apparently.

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    A lot of people here thinking the USA is speed running fascism here.

    No, the USA was always an inspiration to fascism (just ask the remaining Native Americans as an example).

    That’s why it was able to adopt into it so quick. Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.

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      Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.

      Is almost a good analogy, but that’s not so easy 😅

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        Frying fat would have been better, because most older diesels run on it out of the box.

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        Well it did take awhile, but it’s definitely easier than turning a horse into an electric car

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        just have to replace the engine, how hard could it be? /s

        better analogy would be converting a (relatively modern) gas engine to E85, it’s simpler, from what i understand

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          Yep, but to be fair, he’s not an expert in archaeology, so probably he didn’t realise.

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      Before WW2 broke out, the New York Times LOVED Mussolini. They kept pumping out articles about how much of a cool guy he was.

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      What if we called the original people Americans, and the newcomers immigrant Americans?

      Clarity: Native American -> American

      American -> Immigrant American

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        Because “American” is not their word for themselves. It is the Latinized last name of the Italian explorer (Amerigo Vespucci) who explored the continents.

        It would be offensively ironic to name the original dwellers of this land mass after the guy, it would be assimilation.

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          Not really. Those are human made concepts, so you must start from the inception of the concept of immigration. Good luck finding the exact date, since it predates written language :/

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            Well since dates are human concepts as well we can just state it is immigration date 00/00/0000. Are the months or days first? That’s up to you, haha. You make a good point, but you understand what I mean. If we consider immigration only being the integration into another state permanently then we would have to say we had mostly open immigration into the U.S. until the later parts of the 1800s. The first 99 years there were no real immigration laws here. (So roughly 40% of our history had no immigration restrictions for the most part)

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        And due to the transitive property of humans, if we follow this through to its logical conclusion then native Americans are immigrant Americans too

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          Which is why “indigenous” is the best word in my opinion. Not just for the indigenous Americans, but for indigenous people the world over. It’s generally understood to mean “pre-colonial.”

          Edit: The only exception I can think of is that the Vikings settled Greenland before the Thule (who became the Greenland Inuit), but Danes are not considered indigenous and Inuit are. Maybe because the Vikings that settled there all left or died out and also maybe because the Vikings and the Thule settled different parts of Greenland and had very little contact with each other even when they could clearly see each other across a fjord. The very Christian Vikings of that era were probably quite reluctant to interact with people they saw as heathens.

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    They really are speedrunning fascism this time around. They did have plenty of time to prepare out in the open and gained public support with no long term repercussions.

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      Not supporting this but freedom of speech is freedom from prosecution. If you are flipping burgers and tell a customer your favorite category of adult film, your getting fired.

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        From what I searched, the meteorologist criticized Elon Musk on her private social media, not while working.

        If you’re flipping burgers, and later you get home and post online on a personal account about your favorite category of adult film, it’s none of your employer’s business.

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          I totally agree. Still nothing to do with freedom of speech itself. The 1st amendment.

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            I meant free speech, not the 1st amendment (I’m not even from the US). The concept of freedom of speech is relevant to this situation.

            I believe that a company threatening to fire its employees based on an opinion they had in private or in a personal social media account is wrong. I imagine this isn’t necessarily against the law, but should still be acknowledged as a form of censorship.

            Of course, there are certain opinions that are absurd or even illegal(?). if a company relies on public image of its employees (not sure if i phrased this correctly) then there are situations where it’s reasonable to fire the employee for an opinion, but since it’s regarding opinions, this would be very difficult or impossible to define legally while still being fair.

            I’m not exactly sure what my point is anymore so I’m just gonna stop arguing, but I’ll maybe read some other threads for some insight on the situation

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              I do agree though some jobs like a meteorologist means you are on tv and affect the reputation of your business. You can’t have actors on your TV show expressing opinions on social media that affect your bottom line. It’s bad for business which means you can be fired. All about money sadly. That’s censorship though, not freedom of speech unless your country has a different definition of the phrase than the U.S.

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              Freedom of speech is just that, free from government interference(look it up). You are referring to censorship.

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        Yep you are free to call out fascist your employer supports. And your employer is unfortunately free you to fire you. No free speech violations there. Now if they called in the government to take you off to a camp to be exterminated or re-educated. Once the government becomes involved it’s most definitely a free speech / human rights violation. Will get there soon enough. Still plenty of reason to be outraged.

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    2 days ago

    Everything they accuse china and the opposition of doing it something they do or want to do themselves.

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      Had to do some memeological research; that’s Yeon-mi Park, a North Korean defector on the Joe Rogan Podcast saying “in North Korea …”

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        she makes up shit about how bad life in is NK, like “we have to get out and push the train when it stops”