• Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’m not huge into drugs, can someone explain to me why a billionaire takes ketamine? Isn’t it a prescription painkiller?

    Shouldn’t he be smoking brainstem of an endangered rainforest frog, or some nameless lab chemical synthesized personally for him?

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      I know it’s hard to phantom, but they have human bodies

      That react to stimulants just like we

      But they aren’t like us

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    3 hours ago

    I’m currently taking 80mg ketamine troches and can verify that I am not a sociopathic Nazi.

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    Who cares what the cause of the behavior is? It is unacceptable.

    That should be enough. No need to even try to explain of empathize with it.

    But it is telling that the richest man in the history of mankind acts like this. People should see that wealth does not equate to strength, intelligence, good politics, etc. But instead people see wealth as a way to get away with anything they want, even if it is completely embarrassing stuff that no one with self respect would even think about.

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    Hey look, the media blaming drugs for stupid people doing stupid shit.

    This isn’t the ketamine. He would probably be even worse without it.

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    Along with those unsettling side effects, the psychopharmacology researcher and her team also found that regular users scored very high on delusional thinking scales and seemed to be convinced that they were receiving secret messages sent to them alone

    Sounds like him but honestly money and power is probably enough to explain his delusional behaviour

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    I mean… we all have that friend who does mushrooms or drops acid and thinks they are the savior of the human race.

    The only difference is that the next day they have to go work their shift at IHOP rather than waking up and being the richest person in the world.

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    Imagine coming out of a K hole and finding that you’ve caused the most powerful nation in the world to collapse.

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    15 hours ago

    They gave my cat ket before they euthanized her. She looked absolutely blissful, but certainly in no fit state to run a government.

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    Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched. Whether good, bad, or mixed, the knowledge would be useful.

    In any case, I think that being wealthy is the most dangerous drug of all. It frees you from the consequences of your actions. Being invulnerable from society, prevents you from knowing what it means to be harmed. It is why rich folks tend to be assholes, since they don’t understand the reality of being human. They are more akin to space aliens or dragons.

    …at this point, excessive wealth is something I believe to be a drug that harms society, not individuals.

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      There’s an insane amount of research into ketamine. That’s why they literally use it regularly to sedate children.

      It’s very safe and well tolerated. This shit isn’t about ketamine.

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    A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.

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    People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It’s money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man’s brain damage.

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      Yeah sad to see so many people here make the same error that the US (and most of the world) did regarding cannabis for 80+ years.

      Stop falling for propaganda like this.

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      You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.

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        Little boy feels unwanted.

        Little boy commits to getting rich and successful so he’ll feel wanted.

        Little boy achieves success.

        Little boy finds out the money prevents him from forming any meaningful relationships.

        The world burns.

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        Right, no one does the amount of steroids Joe Rogan does without having a severe case of body dysmorphia or something similar

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    I think it’s fair to say that ketamine may be affecting his faculties, but this is dipping it’s toe into “the drugs make him do it!” sanewashing.

    Drugs don’t make people assholes. They were assholes before they took the drugs, and the drugs emphasise what an asshole they are.

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      As a very wise person once told me about acid, it doesn’t change you as much as it makes you more like yourself.

      Put an A-hole down the K-hole and guess what comes out the other end?

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        Idk acid just makes me giggly and forget what I was saying because I saw a cool pattern on the wall. Don’t think it changes your personality that much

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          On higher doses, it can really break down the wall that makes you YOU into individual bricks. Seeing yourself, your actions, passions, and interpersonal relationships from a third person perspective isn’t something you can come back from without some sort of change.

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          Could be the dose, but LSD is far more than just visual. If you take certain meds (I think SSRIs might be one), it can significantly dull the experience as well.

          I’m not sure I would say it personally changed me, but I can 100% understand how that could be possible. LSD is no joke.

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            Maybe if i took it solo it would be a different experience, but I’ve only done it in group settings where we’re just having fun so no real introspective thoughts occurred. (Biggest dose was around 300mcg)

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              Yeah, I once had similar “just tripping with friends” plans, but this is back when you had no idea about dosage and we each took 2 hits.

              I assure you, “no real introspective thoughts” was not an option that day/night lol… In fact, I remember trying to fight it early on (before just saying fuck it and letting go), and boy did it make me uncomfortable. Probably the most dysphoric I have ever felt. It was like “look at me, I am the captain now.”

              I wouldn’t call it a bad trip per se, but it was certainly difficult.

              Honestly, after reading about some of the similar psychedelics that were floating around at the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was DOM or something similar. The trip lasted like 18 hours lol. It was the wild west back then.

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                Ye our trips also lasted about 12 to 14h before it let us sleep. But we also had other stuff and booze to keep the thoughts away

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      People have been known to change personalities and become like that after serious brain injuries. Not uncommon for such people to become right wing.

      I don’t know much about ketamines effect on the brain…