If John Brown is remembered for one thing it would definitely be his nuanced both sides view of oppression
He was also a friend to his Native neighbors and a fond reader of Napoleon and Oliver Cromwell histories. Even setting aside his armed rebellion and Bleeding Kansas, the guy was never much of a pacifist and hardly one to shy away from extremism or his belief in the righteousness of working people.
Oliver Cromwell
Oliver Cromwell shouldn’t have stopped at Berlin
he should have stopped before he massacred up to half the population of ireland though
:yea:
be Cromwellfeel bad about killing King Charles>don't feel bad about genociding IrelandAnglo
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This guy couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with a punt gun
“Modern John Brown would be Pete Buttigieg” is like some type of perverse blasphemy I don’t quite know how to digest. These tweets are genuine evil.
John Brown started my path towards being a Communist
I read what he did, how he so strongly understood the evil of slavery that he went out and did something about it, and that resonated with me
Of course, the people who would tell me, “Oh, he had the right idea, but he shouldn’t have killed people” only strengthened my respect for him, because I knew they were just the same mealy-mouthed cowards who would said they stood against slavery but would do nothing to actually dismantle the system that permitted it
It is genuinely one of the most disrespectful things I’ve ever heard said about the man.
Truly perverted shit
John Brown didn’t conditionally advocate for people in bondage if they were christian, this person is completely thoughtless.
John Brown was really religious–>really religious people hate non-believers (which isn’t even generally true) but it’s demonstrably untrue in Brown’s case with even a cursory knowledge of his life
I posted this further up but John Ingersoll was the most famous atheist of the day and a friend of Brown and said this
But the real pioneer in America was old John Brown. Moved not by prejudice, not by love of his blood, or his color, but by an infinite love of Liberty, of Right, of justice, almost single- handed, he attacked the monster, with thirty million people against him. His head was wrong. He miscalculated his forces; but his heart was right. He struck the sublimest blow of the age for freedom. It was said of him that he stepped from the gallows to the throne of God. It was said that he had made the scaffold to Liberty what Christ had made the cross to Christianity.
Ah yes, of everyone in society to hate, it would be the communists for atheism and not the monstrous war machine that scours a million lives a decade and robs the global South of its resources every time its gaze falls upon a poor, barely defend brown country like the eye of Sauron. Yes, I’m sure he’d be an insufferable terminally online social media lib, rather than the one who shoots the insufferable terminally online social media lib.
he’s gonna be real shocked to learn the religious views of like half of all communist movements in the Americas
He’s a radlib
Finding out a cucumber is a fruit would shock him
frankly that’s shocking to me. i disagree.
botanically speaking pumpkins are a type of berry
you’re fucking with me. i’m being fucked with.
iirc pineapples are the same thing
africa is closer to maine than to florida
I feel like there should be a word for realizing the world is 3D is unique ways. I’ve expressed this feeling when moving furniture, when doing engineering designing, and a few others, and now with regards to geography. It’s this mindblowing feeling that the 2D simplifications we often use and are so used to just remove so much possibility when you reach the edge of what’s possible. Draw a line on a map and this seems ridiculous but imagine a sphere and it becomes readily apparent. Try to move a cabinet through a door without utilizing all 3 angles and it becomes apparent. Dimensional readjustment or something
Seems pretty dialectical actually in some way I can’t put my finger on
there’s more trees on earth than there are stars in the galaxy
Sharks are older than trees.
sharks are older than the north star
honestly i’d think they’d have more wrinkles
communists are atheists
“Finance imperialists are soulless and satanic, every church is just a temporarily embarrassed Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple” this is atheism, I am very smart!
nice one lol
This is what happens when literally the only thing you know about John Brown was he was against slavery
John Brown would be jerking it to Cuba
Lol not only did Marx and Brown coexisted in the same time period, but Brown has expressed his interest in socialism and anti capitalism. Does this loser think every slave Brown worked with was a devout Christian?
Lenin would have said “tighten the interest rates because the economy needs healthy bank reserves” if you ask me.
But we already had a modern attempt at John Brown :
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Holy shit John Brown himself was so fucking sick of hearing this exact argument made about slavery he killed slavers with a giant sword.
did he actually have a sword? i thought that was just part of the song.
No he had a broadsword and his sons beheaded a slaver. He also stole George Washington’s sword from his slaver great nephew and wielded it against the white supremacists at Harper’s Ferry (I believe by some accounts he parried a sword thrust from an opponent around a door corner)
If Tarantino doesn’t make a movie about him before retiring and dying then he deserves to get his corpse’s ass kicked
And don’t make John Brown an irrational religious zealot or mentally insane either, which are the common depictions of him in media. He was religious, but it was not irrational religious zealotry that fueled him but a great Christlike love and compassion and understanding. If you read his life accounts he was greatly admired by the communities he was a part of and he also treated Native Americans very well.
I believe one time a white supremacist possy tried to round up some native Americans nearby and tried to recruit John and his sons, and he told them he would rather form a possy against the white supremacists and drove them off his territory
There was a show called The Good Lord Bird that seemed good but I’ve never watched it to confirm
It looks amazing from the clips, but I"m rusty on torrenting shit these days.
Ethan Hawke starred as John Brown in Good Lord Bird pretty recently so I doubt Tarantino will make a John Brown flick. Also Tarantino has never actually made a historical film where the main characters are real historical figures. He has stuff like Inglourious Basterds where Hitler gets killed, but none of the main characters in that movie were real.
Brown wins harpers ferry, starts great southern BBQ a decade before Sherman.
Man I don’t know much about John brown but every time I hear something new he gets cooler and cooler.
yeah he’s literally the greatest American to ever live
He stole George Washington’s sword from George Washington’s failnephew
During Bleeding Kansas, some of Brown’s followers had swords, but AFAIK he never actually used one.
He beheaded at least one slaver with a broadsword, or rather his men did.
Late in the evening, they called at the house of James P. Doyle and ordered him and his two adult sons, William and Drury, to go with them as prisoners. (Doyle’s 16-year-old son, John, who was not a member of the pro-slavery Law and Order Party, was spared after his mother pleaded for his life.) The three men were escorted by their captors out into the darkness, where Owen Brown and his brother Frederick killed them with broadswords. John Brown Sr. did not participate in the stabbing but fired a shot into the head of the fallen James Doyle to ensure he was dead.
fired a shot into the head of the fallen James Doyle to ensure he was dead
“Kill all slaveowners but also nuance is important” -Settler John Brown
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the children of God” – Jesus Christ
“I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood.” – John Brown
Clearly, we can all see the parallels.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the children of God” – Jesus Christ
“I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood.” – John Brown
Clearly, we can all see the parallels.
I don’t know about parallels but this certainly reads like a before and after.
It’s actually a misquote. He said “can never be purged away but with votes.”
If you’re a John Brown stan, you can’t complain about Hamas being religious extremists. After all, John Brown was a religious extremist.
John Brown would have shot this man.
“Owen, get the broadswords”
all my valor, stolenI’m taking the middle ground! I just want peace!
repeats pro Israel taking points non stop
JUST RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!
bombs every corner of Gaza that might be hiding hostages
I’ve seen more than a few pro-Israeli comments say “if they stole your mom and siblings would you call for a ceasefire?? Wouldn’t you want the most severe reaction from Israel?” Like what the fuck, no, if my family is held hostage please stop shooting and bombing everyone! I haven’t seen any real person make this argument, it seems like desperate propaganda that is clearly failing.
I saw the second interview between Piers and Bassem Yousef and when Bassem asked if the government should destroy the empire state building if it had terrorists inside and Piers was like “Well that’s the question isn’t it”
Israel has literally driven people to insanity.
Also apparently an Israeli politician has already said that they can’t fear for the hostages and disregard their soldiers’ lives.
That is wild, for a conflict that doesn’t have a direct impact on average Americans I am surprised how far some supporters of Israel will admit they will go. This almost seems like a conflict that people could fight over in the US, from the seriousness I’ve seen people talk about it, even if all major politicians of both parties support Israel. There is just such extreme propaganda pushing the Israeli position, and people opposed to Israel have been seeing endless murder for decades (paid for in part by US taxes) and desperately want to end it.
It was on the first or second day after Oct 7th that I saw an IDF spokesperson saying “the hostages are already killed, Hamas had no intention of releasing them.” This was a clear signal they were not even going to try to save them. And then later when it comes out that someone like the German-Israeli woman at the music festival was killed, people will be like “oh Hamas how could you!” When it was likely she was killed by IDF bombing.
Well that’s just an admission that soldier lives are more valuable than civilian lives. Not surprising coming from the only faction in this conflict actually confirmed to use human shields with evidence.
thank you 9/11 hijackers for destroying the WTC that (briefly) had the 9/11 hijackers inside it
I have seen real people with that take and it’s horrifying.
They wouldn’t steal my mom and siblings because we aren’t settler colonists.
Palestinian ethnonationalist
THEY WANT TO RETURN TO THEIR HOMES AND NOT BE BLOWN UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT
“There are good slavemasters and bad slaves so I agree with both sides. How about we try a humanitarian pause where all the slaves are freed 4 hours a day?” - John Brown
a radical liberal with…an interest in economics
“I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with
blood.careful manipulation of interest rates” – Modern John Brown apparently(damn, that hurt to type…)
Slavery is none other than the most barbarous, unprovoked and unjustifiable war of one portion of its citizens against another portion, the only conditions of which are perpetual imprisonment and hopeless servitude, or absolute extermination. I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood.
Wait, I’m losing my twitter stan, let me start over.
I, John Brown, remain baffled that anyone who isn’t a slaver or a slave can look at this conflict and feel so strongly that one side’s cause is so just and the other’s so wicked that it demands everyone take the same, extremely strong position.
I, John Brown, remain baffled that anyone who isn’t a slaver or a slave can look at this conflict and feel so strongly that one side’s cause is so just and the other’s so wicked that it demands everyone take the same, extremely strong position.
On the one hand I can agree that slaves have had much difficulty and their situation is unbearable, but the slavemaster too is merely fighting to protect his property; this is actually a very complex issue and we don’t want to see violence enter the picture. Both sides just need to sit down and talk to each other.
-21st century lib John Brown
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the radicalism of the past is easier for libs to swallow. history’s only purpose for them is to justify the status quo. john brown is good because he was part of the process that brought us this far. he needn’t push us any further.
Lenin quote
Is there one?
“During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.”
I think it fits.
Nice thanks!
White people being 10 degrees left of centre in matters of history, and 90 degrees to the right in events that are currently taking place. Scratch a liberal and all that.
this is like an invocation
i hope john brown’s ghost reaches through a mirror to choke this person out for such libshit
Get Candyman’d with a broadsword
superior john brown movie pitch right there
maybe they’re just really into john brown’s whole aesthetic but not really his politics?
This guy tried to make an argument that John Brown would support Israel because of the Bible, but the Bible also doesn’t condemn slavery and tells slaves to obey their masters, and John Brown clearly fucking disagreed with that.
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