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    Once 3rd party apps are gone I refuse to use Reddit other than through old.Reddit which is probably next on the chopping block

    Once old Reddit goes I am gone for good. On the plus side I will get a lot more free time back

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      If they get rid of old.reddit I’m out. The new UI is absolute garbage. However, I’m not entirely happy with Lemmy and it’s >50% of my screen being useless whitespace. I wish Lemmy had an old Reddit style. This trash design philosophy of whitespace is ridiculous.

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    In the past hour I’ve gotten like 10 applications to join my server and many of them have mentioned reddit’s new api pricing as a reason why.

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      Same, we’ve been getting a lot. I welcome every single one of reddit’s bad decisions :)

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      Yup… reddit only gains from people being forced into using their own app. Apollo and other 3rd party clients don’t track data like “time spent looking at X ad”.

      More metrics and such to sell to advertisers.

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        it’s disgusting how no one wants to actually be a company that provides things anymore, but simply a company that does deals with advertisers

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          Reddits innovative spirit really did die with aaron swartz, who couldn’t stand working there.

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          the admins of lemmy.ml are tankies and encourage this sort of propaganda posting. i’d highly recommend you move instances if this bothers you; sopuli.xyz and beehaw.org are both good instances

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      Same here! I created an account about a year ago and now I am considering moving over full time. Does anyone have any good sub-lemmys(?) that newcomers should check out?

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        any good sub-lemmys(?)

        I think the “proper” term is “Communities”, in case the question mark there was indeed a “Is that the term?” 😁

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      If you can, tell people about lemmy in those other threads. People often just don’t know what the alternatives are.

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    I’m curious what this does to libreddit and teddit. Teddit has said as of a month ago they’ll go to HTML scraping. Libreddit I think is still waiting to see. But then there is the question of why reward that ecosystem by staying in it? Unfortunately (at least for replacing Twitter and Reddit) as we saw with Twitter and Mastodon I don’t see a fediverse site gaining dominance over Reddit, mostly due to the fediverse’s very nature of decentralization. So it would be nice to have open source alternatives through the above services.

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      I sympathize with those libreddit and teddit devs, because they’ve probably spent hundreds of hours building and maintaining those front ends, all to have their work essentially go in the trash at reddit’s whims. But you’re right, these are the dangers of rewarding that ecosystem, and building things for centralized services.

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        their work essentially go in the trash

        They learned a lot in the process probably, that is the most important for them after all. But relying on API is risky, so always go HTML scrapping. The frontends are super useful for finding information already there without accessing the actual website. Always use Lemmy here for everything else.

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        That would be something - all of the major reddit clients pivot to bring Lemmy or other fediverse clients.

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          What a fantastic idea. They don’t even have to necessarily pivot their apps to actually be Lemmy clients to deliver a massive “fuck you” to Reddit. They collectively have a large install base. Instead of a warning banner saying, “This app will cease functioning on July 1 (or whatever the date is),” they could add, “Check out our new community over on Lemmy [with a link to whichever Lemmy client].” If I were a Reddit app dev, I would 100% be incorporating this threat into my talks with their team about the forthcoming reddit API.

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    Suggestion / request for people leaving Reddit: shred your content before deleting your account. Don’t leave it in the platform, otherwise it’ll just become more profits for the greedy fucks.

    You can mass delete your comments in a safe way through Power Delete.

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      All I ever do on reddit is shitpost and say absurd bullshit to throw off ai learning as much as possible.

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        That sounds a lot like a perverse albeit unintentional incentive to keep users relying on a platform that shouldn’t be trusted. Give this a read, as Karl Voit explains it nicer than I can; I’d also like to highlight that any sort of info that you find in Reddit is highly unreliable, due to the excessive local leniency towards certain types of irrationality.

        Also note that this is an easy issue to solve, from both sides. People looking for help can always look for it elsewhere; and people willing to help can migrate their content elsewhere.

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          I want to agree, but Reddit is an absolute trove of information and support on all kinds of technical issues. It’s a repository of information and solutions not rivaled by many others. Losing Reddit would legitimately make the internet a less usable, less helpful place. It’s a damn shame, but it’s true.

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            A trove of information plus noise and misinformation. If you ask any actual question - be it tech help or something else - expect most replies to be from:

            • users who didn’t understand your question on first place, no matter how simple and concisely you phrased it.
            • users assuming context out of nowhere or disregarding the context that you’ve provided.
            • users avoiding to reply to your question because they really, really want to boss you around on unrelated matters.
            • users who are not informed on the question, do not know the answer for the question, but assume it and voice it as certainty.
            • users circlejerking or voicing stale jokes based on some trivial detail in your question.

            You might get an actual answer in this sea of misinfo and noise, but if you’re looking for help there’s a good chance that you don’t know enough to sort it out. And the exact same deal applies to anyone looking at the others’ questions looking for help.

            Losing Reddit would legitimately make the internet a less usable, less helpful place. It’s a damn shame, but it’s true.

            The truth is that, no matter what you do, you’re going to lose it. Reddit is already going this way, no matter if you delete or don’t delete your content, and no matter what happens in the alternatives (as this one). Because even misinfo and noise drive engagement up.

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              When I run into issues and look to Reddit, despite not knowing how to solve my problems, it’s at least 50/50 odds I find my solution and have no issues. To pretend the misinformation discredits the entire platform is folly. May as well toss out stackoverflow and others, their track record isn’t any better in my experience. I have similar odds there at a solution

              All forums have problems, and while I don’t agree with reddits business strategy, it’s backlog is unmatched by most resources.

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            A personal website is a great idea, specially if you have practical knowledge over a few connected topics.

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            Keep in mind that plenty subreddits have policies against blog posts, even if they aren’t monetised. Even then, you’re setting up another place where people can reach you out for help, so frankly that’s still an amazing idea.

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    😮‍💨 I guess I’m not too surprised given what’s been going on. Sad to see, but not surprising.

    I do wonder how much Reddit will push until it has its Digg moment.

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    I use Now for Reddit because the interface of the official reddit app sucks, along with way too many ads. Now that reddit is going in this direction, I decided to check Lemmy out.

    So far, I like what I see. It’s not perfect but it’s a good start!

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    Can we normalise adding our ‘subscribed to’ subs, into our profiles. Helps newcomers, like myself, discover more and more subs.

    Maybe only the moderated ones show up… hmm… dunno

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      Teddit might be scraping the public site, so it would be okay. But any apps that use the API will have to have the developer pay thousands of dollars to keep API access. Its the first step before closing off the API entirely like twitter did.

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        Teddit and similar apps actually use the “anonymous” API, so once this API change comes in, those apps are basically dead without rewrites. Some ideas coming up are full page scraping (would require a lot of new coding and new issues like rate limits and etc), RSS scraping (would not be as complete information wise).

        libreddit issue

        teddit issue

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          Those projects are great, and its sad that its ultimately up to the whims of some evil company to waste the hundreds of hours they spent building those apps.

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            Yeah, I’m often thankful to people building these frontends, because ultimately a lot of human information is in those corporate silos and accessing them via a frontend is better than directly.

            But at the same time, I would never build such a frontend myself, for the reason you mentioned.
            All it takes, is a bunch of profiteering dickwad investors, to make your efforts go poof.

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            its ultimately up to the whims of some evil company to waste the hundreds of hours they spent building those apps.

            Or the cheapskate users who don’t want to fund open source alternatives …