I want instance eventually like CENSORSHIP FREE where people can say anything, like the voat except no limiters placwd on you and you can SAY ANYTHING whenever you want ans
No, I have to say no. Because, from what I’ve seen on many alternatives, free speech brings out the worst people, and they say awful things just to say awful things. Granted Lemmy is a left-wing community, but if there was a free speech version of lemmy, there would be an influx of right-wingers, nazis, etc
Definitely not. Those instances almost always devolve into right-wing garbage and people spewing slurs for the sake of it. Anyways, the idea of free speech that people online, especially right-wingers and liberals, tend to argue for is sort of flawed and paradoxical. Here’s a very good reading on the subject.
right-wing garbage
garbage
Didnt read it but you seem very biased
Indeed I am. Everyone is biased to a degree, and to think that non-bias is possible is silly. Anyways, you should read the link I sent you. I promise you that it is very interesting, and keep in mind that it isn’t anti-free speech. Rather, it is a critique of the common usage of free speech arguments.
I like checking out new communities and instances as they pop up. I can’t remember a single one that was created under the banner of “free speech” that didn’t just turn into a gross space. I’m not saying it’s not possible. I’m just saying that in my experience “free speech” is code for far-right abuse geared to the most vulnerable people in society. If I see a community that has “free speech” as their main point, I take that as a sign to avoid it. Then a while later I hear about how some far right group is active there.
Fully agree, free speech is just code for hate speech at this point. We have dozens of examples of “free speech” havens full of bigots, and literally zero examples of a “free speech” community that isn’t dominated by hate speech.
I don’t really agree with you
I don’t think what you’re describing is gross
in my experience “free speech” is code for far-right abuse geared to the most vulnerable people in society
I don’t think what you’re describing is gross
So you think that abusing vulnerable people in society is okay?
Don’t think its objectively bad
aaaand that’s a ban.
I’m not sure if it is a good idea in the long run to swing the ban hammer so quickly.
Most previous Reddit alternatives have quickly turned into extremist communities. And what all of them had in common, was that they wanted to maximize free speech and minimize moderation.
The Lemmy devs are trying hard to avoid that for this Lemmy instance by sending a strong message of what’s okay and what’s not.
And I really don’t think, that is a problem. Anyone can host their own instance where they can welcome the extremists with open arms. Or they can join one of the many existing Reddit alternatives. If this one instance is different from all of the rest, that’s the smallest problem.Most previous Reddit alternatives have quickly turned into extremist communities.
Implying lemmy is not extremist community rofl
With posts like “Belarus protests are NATO propaganda” on the front-page we kinda joined the “reddit extremist clones” club already.
Most definitely. Lemmy is already becoming a bit of a meme whenever it pops up in other discussions like Hacker News or Reddit because of this. If mods would stay away from actually “contributing” to this instance Lemmy would have been in a much better shape right now.
It’s also becoming a bit of an echo chamber especially with “lemmy council” or whatever just being spineless yes-men noodles that had absolutely nothing of notable value done since their introduction and just brigade posts with votes…
That being said it’s kinda moot to discuss it on a dev server. Lets just chill, enjoy the popcorn and wait for the real show to start at some point!
