If they wanted to be the party of the working class, they would have imposed the rail union’s demands on the rail bosses. Instead, they made sure they couldn’t strike.
The topic here is senate Democrats. Biden isn’t in the senate, and as centrists are so fond of saying when they justify the party’s mistreatment of Sanders in the 2016 primary, Sanders isn’t a Democrat.
No. You don’t get to reassign what the topic is about because it’s better for your pessimistic view. Biden is the de facto leader of the Democratic party. What he does is incredibly important for the direction of the party as a whole, and therefore senate democrats.
You don’t get to reassign what the topic is about because it’s better for your pessimistic view.
Article’s about Senate Democrats. Senate Democrats made sure rail bosses got what they wanted. What Biden and Sanders did afterwards to try to mitigate the betrayal of Senate Democrats is not something Senate Democrats should be given credit for.
You don’t get to stab workers in the back like Senate Democrats did and then get credit for the work people who aren’t Senate Democrats put in.
The comment I wrote was about the democratic party as a whole. It’s never just the senate, just the house, or just the president when a party moves left.
It’s never just the senate, just the house, or just the president when a party moves left.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too? Like how the entire party killed BBB? Like how the entire party killed the minimum wage increase? Like how the entire party supports Netanyahu’s genocide? Manchin voted to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, so the entire party helped kill Roe v Wade.
If you want to give the entire party credit for the accomplishments of people who aren’t even party members like Sanders, we can certainly go there. Lieberman wasn’t a party member, so the entire party killed the public option.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too?
Yes. The democratic party is a progressive, liberal party. That means they’re still right of center and make many moves that hurt the working class. But they’ve also been moving left since the 40s. In my state, the democratic party absorbed the Farmer-Labor party and moved significantly more left as a result. They’re still more left than the rest of the nation imo. But because they’re still primarily a liberal party, their progress is slow.
What a ridiculous lie. You’re actually going to sit there and claim that Democrats’ positions today are the result of moving to the left of Democrats during the height of the New Deal.
Agreed, as optics are concerned. But in the end I think the workers got what they were asking for. It just didn’t make for exciting news so wasn’t covered in the media.
If they wanted to be the party of the working class, they would have imposed the rail union’s demands on the rail bosses. Instead, they made sure they couldn’t strike.
It was extremely quiet, but after the terrible contract was pushed through, Bernie and Biden worked behind the scenes to get most rail workers the sick time they were fighting for. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave
The topic here is senate Democrats. Biden isn’t in the senate, and as centrists are so fond of saying when they justify the party’s mistreatment of Sanders in the 2016 primary, Sanders isn’t a Democrat.
No. You don’t get to reassign what the topic is about because it’s better for your pessimistic view. Biden is the de facto leader of the Democratic party. What he does is incredibly important for the direction of the party as a whole, and therefore senate democrats.
I would also bet that party leadership was fully aware of the plan to continue negotiations behind the scenes.
Article’s about Senate Democrats. Senate Democrats made sure rail bosses got what they wanted. What Biden and Sanders did afterwards to try to mitigate the betrayal of Senate Democrats is not something Senate Democrats should be given credit for.
You don’t get to stab workers in the back like Senate Democrats did and then get credit for the work people who aren’t Senate Democrats put in.
The comment I wrote was about the democratic party as a whole. It’s never just the senate, just the house, or just the president when a party moves left.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too? Like how the entire party killed BBB? Like how the entire party killed the minimum wage increase? Like how the entire party supports Netanyahu’s genocide? Manchin voted to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, so the entire party helped kill Roe v Wade.
If you want to give the entire party credit for the accomplishments of people who aren’t even party members like Sanders, we can certainly go there. Lieberman wasn’t a party member, so the entire party killed the public option.
Yes. The democratic party is a progressive, liberal party. That means they’re still right of center and make many moves that hurt the working class. But they’ve also been moving left since the 40s. In my state, the democratic party absorbed the Farmer-Labor party and moved significantly more left as a result. They’re still more left than the rest of the nation imo. But because they’re still primarily a liberal party, their progress is slow.
What a ridiculous lie. You’re actually going to sit there and claim that Democrats’ positions today are the result of moving to the left of Democrats during the height of the New Deal.
Agreed, as optics are concerned. But in the end I think the workers got what they were asking for. It just didn’t make for exciting news so wasn’t covered in the media.
Did they, though? They ended up with like one sick day that’s not even paid. They still got completely fucked on several fronts.
I just read that they got 4 paid days.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave
We’re talking about senate democrats here. Not Biden.
It seems that they played a longer game and it worked out, but the optics were not great.
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
IBEW seem convinced that Biden and his adminstration were helpful.
Article’s about senate Democrats, who were happy to make sure that the workers couldn’t strike.