[Zelensky] said he was contemplating the move to ensure the country remains led by individuals who are “convinced of victory” against Russia.

ukkkraine is so fucked

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    to ensure the country remains led by individuals who are “convinced of victory” against Russia

    Surrounding yourself with yes-men in the middle of a war you’re losing is always a great idea.

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      Hey now Walmart and Amazon ran st a loss 📉 for a long time and created some of the most wealthy bastards on earth. So a war run by the same Wall Street logic should yeild the same results smuglord just keep spending in deficit until your competition can’t keep up and closes shop.

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      He’s the goofball half pint underling that does what he’s told with a smile. Killing him would be about as meaningful as blowing up a big “Slava Ukraine” billboard.

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        It wouldn’t do much domestically beyond give peacemakers a chance to assert their power, but internationally Zelensky is the only charismatic Ukrainian liberals have attached to and I don’t think they can replace him with someone similar. Ukraine’s next leader isn’t going to have the same ability to convince foreign voters to keep giving them money. If it causes a spiral of instability, that also forces Ukraine to the negotiating table all the same. It’s an inevitability that I don’t think has drawbacks if the goal is to end the war.

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          internationally Zelensky is the only charismatic Ukrainian liberals have attached to

          Because he’s been the one getting all the attention and praise. Modi gets the same treatment in India. Macron gets the same treatment in France. Milei has been getting big glow-ups in Argentina since he began running for office. NPR/CNN/et-al are still trying to make Navalny a thing in Russia.

          They could bring in new media darlings if they wanted to. It would just take a bunch of work, running this person through the media machine a few dozen times until Americans were comfortable with them again. But then… why? What’s the point? When you already have Zelensky and he’s already doing literally everything you ask of him, what else do you actually need?

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          Zaluzhny isn’t a peace maker. He’s very much aligned with the psychotic far right in ukraine. He doesn’t want to make peace, he wants to stop hurling away people on political objectives that have no military value (bakhmut, idiotic counteroffensives, hold the line at all costs type thinking that dominates the zelensky gang)

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    Ukrainian president confirms he’s thinking about dismissing the country’s military chief

    That doesn’t sound like something one should just openly say if they don’t want to get coup’d. Either just do it or shut up about it until you do.
    “Hello, guy who’s in control of my military? I might or might not dismiss you, idk tho”

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      You’re absolutely right. Just look at him:

      If I casted a 2005 movie about a Ukrainian wartime coup I would be begging for Zelensky and this guy to play the two main roles

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      Yea that strikes me as a really bad move. Why announce you’re “thinking about it”? Either lock him out overnight and strip him of official power fast enough that he can’t react or keep your mouth shut. Zelensky may as well be asking to be couped (not victim blaming) if he’s behaving like this

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    If Zaluzhny would just clap more and believe harder Ukraine could transcend material reality and tap into the Great Narrative to achieve victory

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      Zelenskyy said “we have 30 million people in this country” when questioned about whether the army has sufficient manpower

      Don’t worry the superior Ukrainian Will shall bolster the volk into an undefeatable army! The women, children, elderly, disabled and cowardly politicians remaining will win!

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    Zelensky’s desire to fire his commanding general is the result, some Americans believe, of his knowledge that Zaluzhny had continued to participate—whether directly or through aides is not known—in secret talks since last fall with American and other Western officials on how best to achieve a ceasefire and negotiate an end to the war with Russia. It was those talks that led Zaluzhny to declare to the Economist that the war was stalemated. Zelensky has talked of mobilizing 500,000 more soldiers, via another draft, and to try again this spring to launch another counteroffensive against the Russians. Ukraine, of course, would need renewed funding from the Biden administration to do so. It is not clear that Republicans in Congress are prepared to finance another counteroffensive, but there is little doubt that the Biden administration would lobby hard for the funds. (On Thursday, the EU approved funding for Ukraine in excess of 50 billion euros.)

    https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-president-vs-the-general

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    too much coke, dude. your brain can only handle the flood of dopamine so long before you start really believing your own hype.

    a soft coup would just be locking zelensky in a room and cut him off for like 3 days

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    Radio WarNerd has several episodes on the conflict between Zelensky and Zaluzhny. The TLDR is basically a struggle between the civilian institution and the military one. As the war progresses and society gets militarized, the former institution is being questioned.