As the Fediverse grows more and more, rules and regulations become more important. For example, is Lemmy GDPR compliant? If not, are admins aware of the possible consequence? What does this mean for the growth of Lemmy?

Edit: The question “is Lemmy GDPR compliant” should mean, does the software stack provide admins with means to be GDPR compliant.

Edit2: Similar discussion with many interesting opinions on lemmy.ml by /u/infamousbelgian@waste-of.space–> https://lemmy.ml/post/1409164

Edit3: direct link to philpo great answer–>https://feddit.de/comment/840786

  • randomaccount43543@lemmy.world
    14·
    1 年前

    GDPR Art 4.(1) ‘personal data’ means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that natural person;

    Posts in the Lemmy instances contain information relating to an identifiable natural person (by their user handle), as they contain the person’s ideas and opinions. Therefore the Lemmy instances are handling personal data and must comply with the GDPR.

    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
      617·
      1 年前

      Lemmy can avoid the impossibly heavy burden of compliance by becoming an underground illegal service and/or IP banning the Europeans Union and/or abolishing the European Union.

      • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
        12·
        1 年前

        That is a terrible option, cuts off a huge amount of potential users, and basically impossible to do fediverse wide. In fact, The European Union actually has official Fediverse accounts (on Mastodon, custom instance), and if the EU itself is willing to use a platform, that means it’s probably not gonna be taken down by the EU.

        • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
          27·
          1 年前

          Recent event shows the lemmeyverse cares neither about new users nor federation. Everything is designed to work off a single exclusionary instance or small cabal of large instances

            • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 年前

              If you’re not in the main instance, your going to be handicapped in your ability to stay in the loop. First because now everything goes through federation, which was a design afterthought for Lemmy, and that means stuff outside the instance always takes second place to what is inside the instance. Then you have issues like federation which are extra layers of censorship for everything outside your instance. I’ve of the biggest problem is accessing outside communities. First you have to actually go to other instances and find them. They won’t show up until at least one person subscribes. And this has to be fine in every instance for every other instance and every communities in each of their instances before they would even become visible. Of course, this is such a high bar that by the time you do all this, you’ll realize 99.99% of users will not go through this trouble. They will just go to the biggest community on the biggest instance.

              Last problem, if you go to your instance/c/acommunity , you’ll see only that instance’s “acommunity” There is no way to refer to “acommunity” for the entire fediverse. There is no fediverse community. Only parallel, same named but unrelated communities that would require extra steps to view all at once if it were even possible.

              There is a proposal , an old proposal, to create multireddit like feature for Lemmy. But first, the devs so not want to test down this barrier, si they won’t do it. But even if they did, it would not work. Since you’d have to take extra action to aglomerate selected communities with a multireddit, you would be one of very few people to do so because agglomeration would still not be the default. And that means most communities would remain empty deserts anyway.

              • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
                1·
                1 年前

                First because now everything goes through federation, which was a design afterthought for Lemmy, and that means stuff outside the instance always takes second place to what is inside the instance.

                At least for me, that hasn’t seemed to be a problem. I found everything I wanted to subscribe to from my smaller server via Lemmyverse.net, and now when I look at my subscriptions page, I see all the newest posts from all those different communities. Unless you mean that it prioritizes local content on the ‘All’ page instead of subscriptions.

                First you have to actually go to other instances and find them. They won’t show up until at least one person subscribes.

                That isn’t ideal, I will admit. Without Lemmyverse.net it would be difficult to find everything that interested me.

                But first, the devs so not want to test down this barrier, si they won’t do it.

                If Lemmy won’t, then I suspect that would leave the door open for Kbin to implement.

                • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 年前

                  It’s not going to be a problem to find the communities. Since people on arandominstance.com won’t be posting on arandominstance.com/c/interestingtopic

                  They will know if they did, no one would every see it, except for the dozen other people on arandominstance.com

                  Instead, they’ll Google for the biggest /c/interestingtopic , find on what instance it is and go post there

                  We don’t get to the part of having difficulty finding them because they don’t get created in the first place

                  • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
                    1·
                    1 年前

                    Speaking for myself, my home instance of slrpnk.net is still quite small with only around 600-ish members, but seems active enough to be engaging and certainly worth posting and commenting in. It’s not terribly different from posting in a small niche sub on reddit.

                    If there really was only a dozen members in an instance, I could see where there likely wouldn’t be much activity unless it was a group of friends, but I don’t see how it wouldn’t still function as an effective portal to the other bigger servers, if account creation is ever closed on those.

                    Are you sure these growing pains will never be addressed? I don’t really see why the Lemmy devs would be inclined to not eventually fix these issues. Do you feel the kbin devs would be more receptive to these ideas?

          • fornax@feddit.nlEnglish
            3·
            1 年前

            This is a natural phenomenon called the Pareto principle. Roughly 80% of the users will sign up for the top 20% of instances. It happens everywhere in nature and it’s unavoidable. But I don’t think it will be a problem, federation is designed to work like this. You’re not forced to stay on lemmy.world, you can move whenever you want.

      • MBM@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 年前

        Lemmy is developed using EU funds and many of the biggest instances are in the EU

    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
      221·
      1 年前

      Lemmy can avoid the impossibly heavy burden of compliance by becoming an underground illegal service and/or IP banning the Europeans Union and/or abolishing the European Union.