• FaeDrifter
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            Trans people don’t need 4 pronouns including things like “Fae” and “Doe”, or by “trans” you are you referring to “trans-species” people?

            I’m not yet open minded on trans-species, I’ll grant you that.

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            Trans rights are a liberal value. You can call yourself a liberal or a “maga leftist”, but that just means you’re lying about what you call yourself.

            You’re just muddying the waters like a misinformation troll.

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              Trans rights are a liberal value

              Seemingly not based on your comments, fuck off out of our instance

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                I’m not even a liberal, but y’all are so chronically online and accustomed to being in a little echo chamber you can’t talk to anyone rationally.

                I’ve never met a trans person IRL who needs me to remember 4 pronouns, or needs pronouns like “Fae”, but say something on Hexbear and you’re instantly transphobic liberal Hitler.

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                    So silly, I live in an exceedingly queer part of a city and work in a business that is all queer people, so about 1/5 of everyone I work with is trans.

                    As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

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                  columbo So you say trans rights are a liberal value right? Ah yes of course, that checks out.

                  I’ll be going now. Actually, just one more thing, it’s probably nothing - didn’t you just say you don’t consider yourself a liberal?

                  thinking-about-it

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                    I have many liberal values but I don’t identify as a liberal.

                    Liberalism had its place in pushing the envelope of progressivism for a while, but it’s not good enough.

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              You can call me a MAGA Leftist if you want, but that’s because you’re a misinformation troll.

              damn, you’re such a Liberal you had to respond to me twice about how much of a Liberal you totally aren’t

              trans rights are human rights btw

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              Practice democratic centralism, this means for hexbear shut up and read up on trans rights trans-hammer-sickle trans-dagger. The struggle session was decided and in the better times you would’ve been banned a while ago.

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            No, it’s not trans people. It’s specifically just Hexbear, and it’s because you’ve been a tiny echo chamber so long y’all have lost touch with reality.

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            Damn way to dunk on the entire Hexbear instance.

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        Pronouns are fine, y’all took it to a level that looks like alt-right satire of pronouns.

        Trans rights are human rights, but am I literally Hitler because I don’t think “comrade” or “fae” make sense when used as pronouns?

        You seem very rational and not at all unhinged.

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          Some people use neopronouns. Get over it. I think they’re a bit weird too, but so what? If addressing something with weird pronouns affirms their gender identity, then fucking do it. Pretty much everyone I see complaining about neopronouns starts advocating for thanks genocide 5 min late. Consider that that is what you look like now

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            Cool, this is a chance for you to have a new experience and meet someone different.

            I’m Apollo. I think neopronouns are stupid and come from a place of privilege and boredom.

            I will never advocate genocide. I denounce genocide of any people, for any reason, as a war crime and an act of evil. I believe trans people deserve human rights, the right to medical procedures to transition, and the right to their desired gender pronouns.

            So here is it, I will probably always say neopronouns are stupid, but agree that people have a right to be silly without fearing their well-being or health or safety because of it.

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              I believe trans people deserve … the right to their desired gender pronouns.

              I will probably always say neopronouns are stupid

              thinking-about-it

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                At least we agree that grammatical gender is a spook stirner-cool

                Plenty languages don’t have “sex” based differentiation of pronouns, in so far the real neopronouns are things like he, him, she, her (which even in languages that have them became pronounced only in the last few centuries in the way you use and know them).

                I quote Wikipedia here and give a list of languages which do not differentiate like you want them to:

                Differenzierung nach Sexus Sprachen ohne Sexusunterscheidung

                Viele Sprachen kennen (teilweise ursprünglich) beim Pronomen der 3. Person Singular keine Unterscheidung nach dem Geschlecht des Referenten:

                Einige Beispiele solcher Sprachen sind:


                Indonesisch/Malaiisch, Madagassisch, philippinische Sprachen, Hawaiisch, Maori, Rapanui und andere austronesische Sprachen
                Chinesisch, Birmanisch und andere sinotibetische Sprachen
                Thai und andere Tai-Kadai-Sprachen
                Vietnamesisch, Santali und andere Mon-Khmer-Sprachen
                Swahili, Yoruba und andere Niger-Kongo-Sprachen
                Türkisch, Tatarisch und andere Turksprachen
                Luo und andere nilosaharanische Sprachen
                Ungarisch, Finnisch, Estnisch und andere uralische Sprachen
                Georgisch
                Armenisch
                Mapudungun
                Baskisch
                Persisch****
                

                Durch Einfluss europäischer Sprachen haben einige der oben genannten Sprachen ein weibliches Pronomen eingeführt.

                Im Hochchinesischen beispielsweise geschieht dies durch die Verwendung eines anderen Schriftzeichens (她) für das Pronomen der weiblichen 3. Person Singular (deutsch „sie“) seit dem Beginn des 20. Jahrhunderts. Die Aussprache bleibt dennoch identisch wie die des Pronomens der männlichen (ursprünglich geschlechtsneutralen) 3. Person Singular (他), sodass diese Unterscheidung in der gesprochenen Sprache nicht existiert bzw. nicht erkennbar ist. Des Weiteren wird 它 in der Volksrepublik China für Tiere und Sachen benutzt. Außerhalb der Volksrepublik China findet man 它 für Sachen, 祂 für Götter und 牠 für Tiere. Alle diese Schriftzeichen werden tā ausgesprochen. Auf Taiwan wird 妳 als weibliches Gegenstück zum allgemeinen Pronomen der 2. Person 你 verwendet. Beide Zeichen werden nǐ ausgesprochen.

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                  I think you’re responding to the wrong person, I was just quoting them to dunk on them

                  (Though Id never considered how “normal” pronouns could be considered neopronouns themselves, so thanks for that <3)

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                I argue the point that neopronouns are not gender pronouns.

                Yes, gender isn’t real and can be whatever you want. In my opinion, male/female/nonbinary covers enough base. All neopronouns can fit under nonbinary.

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        Not an issue per se, but it reads like an alt-right satire of leftists.

        The only reason I think it might be genuine is that I haven’t seen an attack/helicopter yet, and I know alt-right trolls would absolutely not be able to resist even if it gave the whole gig away.

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            Actually had enough conversations to know it’s genuinely a communist instance and not an alt-right troll farm.

            Also found out that because I think neopronouns are silly, I am a hitler particle emitting fascist that’s 5 minutes away from commiting genocide.

            So I’ll see you in 5 minutes I guess.

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        I said that neopronouns are silly, I’ve learned that this means I am a transphobic liberal fascist that emits Hitler particles and puts me 5 minutes away from commiting genocide.