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Wyoming Area: 253,335 km2
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United Kingdom area: 244,376 km2
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Wyoming population: 576,851 (2020)
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Glasgow urban area population: 632,350 (2020)
And they get 2 senators and 3 electoral votes…sigh…
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Since COVID, Migration from large, expensive coastal cities to sparsely populated rural states is one of the greatest opportunity to permanently flip representation. Idaho was the largest percentage population gainer in the US since COVID and almost all of it coming from CA, OR, WA. Were this to continue you’d probably be looking at a blue state in an election cycle or two. I think this is one of the reasons, long with insane sadism, that Rs are trying to push such radical agendas t state levels–to scare moderates and progressives from moving there. Wyoming could be permablue with one year of concentrated migration.
Even states like Texas, thought of as Red stronghold are not that disproportionately voted Red; 2020 was a difference of 600k votes. 100k net Californians(only CA!) were moving to Texas a year during the pandemic, if you add in other states we might actually see it flip in a few cycles, though the radical agenda being pushed is going to kill those numbers perhaps. Very curious to see 2024 shifts.
Spent ALL day driving rural Mississippi and Alamba and has the same thoughts about WFH. I’m happy where I’m at, but what if I wanted to move or retire to one of the picturesque small towns in Alabama? How many people have done exactly that?
Same reason I may take my wife back to the Philippines when we retire. Money spends different when an apartment is $150/mo. and a loaf of bread is $.15.
A lot of the people leaving those states left them for a reason though
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Disproportionate representation can be kind of a bummer for the under represented folks. Get rid of the senate and remove the cap on the house!
Sadly that will never happen (peacefully) because the smaller states would never vote to reduce their own power. That’s not even considering it would require a constitutional amendment, which is notoriously hard to pass.
it would require a constitutional amendment
Senate, yes. House, no.
The House used to regularly increase in size and has only been at 435 seats since 1911 and capped at that size since 1929. This is changeable through normal law making.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-house-got-stuck-at-435-seats/
Oh 100% a pipe dream, yeah, but it would be so rad
Puerto Rico is six times as populous and gets none
Don’t territories get 1 non-voting representative (effectively 0)?
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They passed three pro-statehood referendums since 2012. It doesn’t seem to matter. Presumably, if they passed a pro-independence referendum, it wouldn’t happen either.
It helps that many of them don’t pay federal income tax (though they do pay other taxes)
Actually 52% in favor of statehood as of 2020. Sentiment seems to be shifting.
My problem is that my vote has far less weight than someone in that state. Wasn’t that implied?
Square miles of farmland shouldn’t have votes, people should.
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I know how the system works. I’m not disputing it. I’m saying the status quo is bad, not that it’s false.
It’s not a popular vote. Never has been, and would be inappropriate to make it so. Basic civics.
Pointing out it’s “basic civics” that that’s how it works currently, and using that to sneak in the huge claim that it’s also “basic civics” that a popular vote “would be inappropriate”. If that was intentional, it was clever.
The house of representatives is unjust in its uneven, disproportionate, and meager representation. Is that what you wanted to hear?
“But that’s how it currently works! Why don’t you understand that?!”
— that person, probably
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“In Europe, 100 miles is a long distance. In America, 100 years is a long time.”
Speaking as someone who lives in tiny Denmark in a city that was founded in the late 700s, that’s very accurate 😄
I remember seeing something a while back that US archaeologists don’t like Europeans on their dig sites, because the Europeans just bulldoze through anything less than a few hundred years old because the interesting stuff is way under it, where the US ones are like “noo, our heritage!”
Those shit bags get 2 senators…
Each 1 Wyoming voter is worth about 67 Californians in the senate due to the fact that California has about 67 times the population but still only 2 senators.
38,940,231 Californians / 576,851 Wyomingites = ~67.5 ratio
Each Wyoming is worth one California in the Senate due to the fact that California and Wyoming are both single states. The messed up part is the missing like 140 representatives that should exist to balance population to representative for each state.
Same as every other state dingus. That’s why we have the house of representatives.
You’re right, and the dingus needs a civics lesson.
But as you’re probably aware, the House has its issues with being artificially limited too.
I’ve been to Vegas and I know the house always wins.
Yes. It’s especially annoying when people who live in places like wyoming act like they’re “real americans”. More people live in cities! Brooklyn, NY alone has ~2.7 million people.
Every person who usually resides in America is a real American
Sure, but the attitude I was trying to describe is “those city folk aren’t real Americans. Only country folk and maybe suburbanites are!”
I failed to include the exclusiveness in my previous post
They’re real Americans, just not…realer Americans than city dwellers.
Straight Border Syndrome.
The straighter a places borders are, the less likely it is that there’s anything there worth fighting over, and the more likely that the lines were drawn thousands of miles away by people who’d never even been there.
That’s most of the US/Canada border. That little tick where Minnesota sticks up into Canada is because a treaty was made with a map that didn’t actually show the accurate geography there.
that’s because it doesn’t exist
No no, Ohio is the one that doesn’t exist
Ohio gozaimasu
As someone who’s in Ohio… I wish this was true. 😭
Michigan Intensifies
I misread it as “less popular than Glasgow.”
That’s undoubtedly true too, though 😁
Yellowstone?
Doesn’t make up for the rest of the state
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Australia’s Northern Territory area: 1.42m km2
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Australia’s Northern Territory population: 246,500 (2020)
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Greenland area: 2,166,086 km2
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Greenland population: 56,583 (2022 estimate)
Nice. I guess Antarctica’s next.
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There are 5 times as many trans people in America as there are whyomingans.
Would probably be 8 or 9 times as many if poor people in Wyoming could afford to move and no trans people felt the need to pretend to be cis for safety too.
Why did I think there was two million people in Wyoming, what the hell happened?
Despite being 7.9x bigger than Wyoming, Nunavut has half the population of Cheyenne
See? Naebdy gies a shite
