My social situation has collapsed so I’m basically gonna have to start over from scratch. I’d rather not do it in my truck-nuts anti-pedestrian small city with a ton of negative associations. I can kind of move anywhere but I don’t have the energy to go somewhere random and hope for the best.

I’d love to live somewhere where I don’t have to own a car. Big enough and with enough stuff to do so I can try to cast a wide net and grow some sort of social group before I die of loneliness. But also where I could afford like a studio apartment on the average entry level wage in the city.

Might be too much to ask with current housing prices.

Any suggestions?

Edit: thank you all! I’ll start checking out jobs/apts in the cities mentioned. heart-sickle

  • Babs [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    2 months ago

    PDX has real good public transit and a studio runs about $1000/mo. Like most big cities it’s mostly libs surrounded by rural chuds, but there are also lots of commies and anarchists here. It’s expensive like most cities, but there are jobs here - a lot of my job is just helping people get employed. Min wage is like $16, but I see lots of entry level jobs closer to the $20 range.

    Also maybe the best city in the US to be trans.

    But also, I work with so many people who moved here without a plan and ended up homeless, so please do your research.

  • buttwater [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    24·
    2 months ago

    I think Chicago is the last city with real robust public transit where rent doesn’t cost $2k/mo.

    I live in the West Coast, and the only cities you could get by without a car are probably sf and Seattle, but both are cost prohibitive

  • chauncey [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    Baltimore.

    Its a seriously underrated city. Great art scene. Great music scene. Beautiful architecture. Loveable weird people. You can live without a car. Still affordable.

  • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    2 months ago

    Agree with folks about Chicago. One of two cities with a good transit system and cost of living can be made much lower than in New York.

  • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    2 months ago

    I’m curious about which U.S. cities have decent or good public transport. So far, I only know about New York and Seattle. Not trying to take over the conversation, just genuinely interested.

      • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        You know, one reason why I’ve never seriously considered living in the USA (aside from other issues like healthcare) is how car-focused a lot of cities seem to be. There are plenty of countries with solid public transportation, but the US just seems to suck in that department. Im sure other Hexbears have more valuable input on that front.

        Obviously, I’d never even think about the USA if I wasn’t well-off.

        • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          yeah, you are either very poor or looked at as crazy if you dont have a personal automobile in the majority of american cities. and even the poor might be catching a ride with other people, the transit is that bad/nonexistent

        • MovingThrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          5·
          2 months ago

          You can own and drive a car for as little as ~$400 a month if your insurance is cheap, you don’t drive too much, and you don’t have collisions or expensive repairs. I usually buy shitboxes that cost less than $2k and hope to get a year of driving out of them before they die.

          Which even at it’s cheapest, driving is a wild cost compared to like a subway pass or whatever shit y’all public-transit-havers use.

      • BakerBagelEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Moving out there in a few months. RTA isn’t bad, and rent is still ok compared to other cities around.

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    2 months ago

    Long Beach ive been living without a car for a while despite being in the LA metro area. Its big enough to have big city stuff, small enough to have a local community and close enough to LA to fuck off there and do big city stuff.

    Its the cheapest beach city in LA County and I can get to my job in DTLA in 30 min with one train ride and a 15 min walk.

  • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    2 months ago

    I’ve seen people mention Chicago, Milwaukee, Philly in previous posts. Never been myself so my comment isn’t super helpful lol

    But I’m also interested so bumping

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      Milwaukee’s transit is bad, even if it’s better than the national average. If you’re a drinker, prepare to Uber, since the lines are reduced or stop early some nights. Many parts are walkable. I want to say bikable, but the drivers got way more aggressive after Covid. Also account for some the most obscene levels of segregation, with the quality of the lead pipes being tied to those poorer zip codes.

      Some good aspects are the water itself is great (one of the largest sources of fresh water anywhere), some fun festivals, a great music scene, and okayish rents.

      I can’t tell how things will look in a while, since it’s a swing state and the people leaving seems to equal to the people moving here. The socialist scene is at least kicking off there, especially considering Milwaukee’s socialist history. Madison supposedly has some good public transport, but the city itself is a bit far off compared to how Milwaukee is closer to cities like Chicago.

      • MovingThrowaway [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        So I understand segregation in theory, but my experience of it in the Rockies/Midwest is probably quite a bit different. What does it entail for someone moving to a new city? Is it mostly a matter of affordable apts being in poor, segregated areas?

        • SpiderFarmer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          Yeah. There’s of course the standard gentrification and the decades of redlining through both government and mafia actions. It’s kind of crazy how there’s points where if you walk 10 blocks in the wrong direction, you can from ritzy stuff to getting mugged. Granted, it really just requires awareness of your surroundings and finding that sweet spot on properties where it’s kinda meh, but not openly dangerous in the morning. The poorer neighborhoods also deal with some corroded lead pipes and a higher police presence in sections, creating a self-perpetuating cycle until enough business pops off in the adjoining areas. Sorry if I’m less than coherent on this.