I saw a news story about this sort of thing years ago. When these driverless car experiments were first getting approved, there were some neighborhoods where the cars would basically just go to die. They’d enter a neighborhood and just stop in the middle of an intersection or slow down to a crawl and go in circles til they ran out of fuel. They have never fixed this problem, and people living in the same neighborhoods from 5 years ago are still having to go outside and shoo the cars away like some strange form of lost megafauna.
I never felt this understood by a car before
Sounds like that one Robocop replacement that pulled off their own helmet to end it all in Robocop 2.
It’s like what animals do to keep from slowing down the herd.
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You can tell the people living in those condos are housebroken middle management types because if this shit was happening outside normal people’s apartments those cars would all have been vandalized so badly they’d be totaled by the insurance company
That was my first thought: how are people not pelting them with bricks from their balconies?
These middle manager types are probably all calling the corporate offices to file complaints without understanding that if they were in the Waymo corporate offices they wouldn’t put any resources into solving the problem until the problem starts costing them money. Meanwhile the normal person just throws bricks and fucks up the gates until Waymo decides it’s worth the resources to geofence the fucking parking lot and disable honking within that area.
I for one welcome the new petite bourgeoisie class of middle managers controlled by the whims of AI.
Seriously I do, honestly easier to tell real living breathing humans apart from people that live in pods and have R2D2 as their girlfriend.
I can’t remember for the life of me where I read it, but I remember reading a kinda sci-fi/fantasyish novel in my teens that had universal ai controlled cars, and the main character asked how they didn’t get into accidents sometimes and the other characters were like “are you stupid? It’s one centralised ai controlling them all” and that stuck with me as an obvious requirement for driverless cars.
Anyway I don’t think any current driverless car creators read that book.
driverless cars coordinated and controlled from a single central source to ensure smooth operation and maximum efficiency
each car individually controlled by competing ai each trying to reduce their transit time at the expense of the other AI operated carsThe invisible crankshaft of the free market.
I remember during the initial hype for driverless cars there was a plan for cars to have ad hoc/ mesh networks with each other so they could perfectly optimize traffic and weave lane changes and left turns in between much smaller gaps than humans can. Somehow it seems just as far away as when it was first proposed.
Somehow it seems just as far away as when it was first proposed.
Probably further away than when it was first proposed tbh
Replace all car roads with trolley tracks, a huge sprawling network of tracks, with streetcars all operated with AI planning. Hell let people buy their own personal trolleys if they want, just don’t let them disconnect from the central planning system, get out where you want and the trolley will head to a tracked storage facility to await your next pickup, out of the way of incoming trolleys all perfectly maneuvering around the city
Life purely on the rails
just like my childhood dreams!
Also, batteries on cars are bullshit, see that SUV with a 1000kg of batteries, but a trolley is connected to an ac grid.
Yes. You see the vision
Minority report had it right
Game theory but for AI cars
One central AI controlling all of them is just the first step into reinventing trains, again.
Trains are to transit evolution as crabs are to biological evolution. If you actually try to improve efficiency in any transit system you’ll inevitably reinvent trains.
It’s still funny that these car-brained tech bros can’t go beyond individual cars controlled independently even when faced with both the obvious downsides and inefficiencies as well as clear ways to improve car based transit.
as crabs are to biological evolution
Barely related, but I want to point out that carcinization only happens to hard shelled creatures, possibly only aquatic ones. Different groups of animals have a few different ideal forms.
For predatory mammals, the ideal form is ferret. Become long.
Im short but i stink. Am i almost there?
(I <3 ferrets don’t@)
Reading this comment chain on a high speed train really enriches the experience
one centralised ai controlling them all"
Too close to commie trains, their minds just can’t conceive
If by “ai” you mean pathfinding and routing algorithms, that makes total sense. If by “ai” you mean the actual driving part and crash avoidance, ping will start killing pedestrians.
Some sort if hybrid system would be great. Knowing that there are no cars on the intersection you plan to cross would save a lot of time with slowing down to check. Equally, having on board systems to slam on the anchors because someone is in the road or whatever would be a requirement.
Waymos as it stands are very good at not crashing. Humans are very bad drivers and frequently hit things, the waymos have been good at not doing that with whatever system they are using now. Obviously there are a few kinks, but it’s not enough to discard the technology. A self driving car is better than a human driven one, but it’s still a car.
In Too Like the Lightning by Ada Palmer there are people artificially enhanced into supercomputers that control the world’s network of flying cars.
Anyway I don’t think any current driverless car creators read that book.
Even if they did they’d get a very blue curtained takeaway like “THAT CYBERCHICK WAS HAWT” or the like, then make “the truck that Blade Runner would drive.”
lmao, driverless cars that can’t even coordinate parking, do a zipper merge, honking and flashing each other, etc
these cars have learned how to drive just like humans alright
“Ok, here’s my pitch: Furbies! but louder, more repetitive, more obnoxious, and capable of killing people.”
“All powered by AI”
Make sure they’re cloud computed and have mandatory subscriptions
not one person went down there with a crowbar and started going ham? Americans have no dignity
I imagine each one of those cars has 10 different cameras on it surveilling every angle around it 24/7
I would simply wear a couple masks and a plain hoodie on the way in, wander out in a random direction and shed the hoodie and mask, then circle around back home
If a driverless car starts honking unnecessarily it should be conoletely legal to set it on fire.
C’mon how hard is to safely molotov that place
Do Waymos do this when they’re distressed? What’s going on?
Wifi is expensive, so they implemented honkfi.
Back in the age of dialup, horrid noises would erupt from the telephone should one lift it from its cradle while using the internet. After decades of peace, we return to this time of disruptive sound, as driverless cars communicate bits and bytes purely through honks.
Driverless cars will solve all the problems of driving and if you disagree you are an ignorant Luddite. All the wasted space and honking is more efficient than you meat puppets can comprehend.
imagine this but with bazingamobiles
I got really into ants for a while, and sometimes I think that capitalism is our species’ equivalent.
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I’d be tossing fists full of ninja rocks off my balcony every night
I have no mouth, and I must scream.
This was the best quest in Cyberpunk
When that other ai suddenly had a cameo, I laughed out loud and crashed into a wall
I was LMAO too.
