Big Village poll shows more than half of voters aged 59-77 hold a negative view of Donald Trump's running mate.
  • BlueLineBaeEnglish
    1562·
    3 个月前

    JD Vance puts his cast iron in the dishwasher pass it on

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      452·
      3 个月前

      So many modern Boomer conservatives still cling to the mythology of the JFK era and the national labor movements that made America great in the wake of WW2. Reagan and Bush and Trump knew how to pander to these folks and to scapegoat minorities and immigrants as the cause of the country’s decline.

      Vance doesn’t have any of that. He’s entirely a product of the 21st century without any roots to speak of. He hates his mom for needing oxy to get through the day. He hates his home town for failing to pull itself up by its own bootstraps, like the armies of government contractors at Yale and Langley and Silicon Valley. And he hates poor white people for not embodying the mystical traits of superhuman races in his favorite pulp fantasy novels. All of that is naked on his face when he tries to talk to anyone over 30.

      He’s not like us. He spends too much time on the computer and now he’s a fucking weirdo.

      • ripcord@lemmy.world
        161·
        3 个月前

        the national labor movements that made America great in the wake of WW2

        Ah yes, the wake of WWII. When America was on top and producing everything, because all of our competitors had the ever-loving shit bombed out of them. Also they needed to buy stuff too.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          3 个月前

          The industry Americans retained could have been under the same monopoly conditions of the 19th century. American working class labor could have been little more than serfs under these same historic conditions.

          Instead, we got modern consumerism - private homes, cars, clothes, vacations, fancy liquors, home appliances, toys…

          That isn’t what the working class of Latin America or Sub-Sahara Africa got, despite also being removed from the war.

          Argentina was the 9th largest economy during the height of WW2. But Peronism looted the country rather than investing in it. South African apartheid and Brazil’s military coup set their economies back decades. These countries weren’t bombed by Germany or Japan, but they never took off like postwar USA.

          Strong domestic unions held back the capitalist rot in the States at least until the Volcker shocks under Nixon, Ford, and Carter.

      • DragonTypeWyvern
        9·
        3 个月前

        Hey, I’m a weirdo that spends too much time on his computer and I don’t do any of that!

    • LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world
      15·
      3 个月前

      They all do. I don’t see any different outcome if it was DeathSantis or Vivek or Token Tim Scott instead of JD.

      These all people have one thing common among them - they all lack backbones and have absolutely no convictions beyond enriching themselves. Not one of them have even an appearance of a coherent policy that works for / is in best interest of anyone but themselves

  • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    3 个月前

    On July 31, Trump dismissed suggestions that JD Vance was a bad choice, telling the National Association of Black Journalists that vice presidential picks have “virtually no impact” on elections.

    Then why are Republicans bothering to attack Tim Walz?

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 个月前

      Even putting that aside, rather than defending his pick he just says sure he sucks, but it doesn’t matter… Way to go?

  • djsoren19@yiffit.net
    553·
    3 个月前

    To play devil’s advocate in defense of the Vance pick, I don’t think Trump needs any assistance in courting boomers. He’s managed to appeal to the generation’s racist tendencies and “I got mine” attitudes to great success. Vance is to try and attract the young dudebro vote with a discount Andrew Tate. So far he seems like the incel messiah, so maybe it’s even working, but obv in all normal circles being such a giant incel is weird af.

    • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      3 个月前

      Yeah, but did Trump really need any help locking up that vote? It’s not like they were going to flock over to Democrats anytime soon. He’s just doubling down on demographics that were already going for him anyways. He needed a stable Pence figure that could convince “on the fence” voters that there was still going to be an adult in the room, or just somebody who is anti-Israel or supports Palestine, that probably would’ve caused the most chaos among Democrats. They’d disagree on everything else, but hey, this person is against genocide in Israel, let’s vote for them.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
        5·
        3 个月前

        He needed a stable Pence figure that could convince “on the fence” voters that there was still going to be an adult in the room

        Anyone stable enough to be that figure saw what his cult wanted to do to Pence and wouldn’t want to be his running mate.

      • djsoren19@yiffit.net
        4·
        3 个月前

        I think the only anti-Israel person Trump would be able to get would be a literal Nazi, so I don’t know if that would have changed anything.

        I do think that there’s a lot of apathy among the incel crowd though. Yeah they might support Trump as a strong man, but that doesn’t mean they’re willing to expend the energy to go outside and vote for him. I think the idea is that Vance is uh, energizing? that movement with all of his incredibly pro-natal talk. Vance feels pretty close to saying he wants women to just be breeding stock, and that’s something incels would vote for.

        I can’t really play devil’s advocate beyond that, it feels too yucky trying to rationalize it. For all we know he was just the name Trump thought of on the day.

        • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 个月前

          Yeah, we can’t discount the hetero-sectionals of this country. They’ll take women as breeding stock, but until that day comes, they’ll come on IKEA’s in-stock.

      • djsoren19@yiffit.net
        161·
        3 个月前

        I know the term is involuntary celibate, but the “movement” has kinda moved onto any men who believe that a woman is obligated to fuck them. That crowd has picked up on a heavy pro-natal message, and Vance’s disparaging comments about women who don’t have kids plays well there. He might have had sex, but he’s trying to offer those losers a world where they’re on top of the power structure.

          • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world
            41·
            3 个月前

            philosophically he really really is, in the same way andrew tate (except for thinking he’s hot, which incels don’t do) is.

              • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world
                31·
                3 个月前

                he’s an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn’t big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

                • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
                  23·
                  3 个月前

                  There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

                  And no I’m not defending him. He’s a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

                  I mean just as one example of how they’re different: level of sexual frustration.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    522·
    3 个月前

    Millennial here, we don’t like him either. I’m really concerned for the couches my children will have to grow up with.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
        161·
        3 个月前

        They lived through the Depression when they couldn’t afford a new couch, so they learned to protect the one they had

        • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
          16·
          3 个月前

          Can confirm. My grandma had a sealed couch that would protect it from stains and the like. Scum like Vance would slide right off.

        • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
          91·
          3 个月前

          That doesn’t make sense - how else do you get little couches if the momma couch can’t be fucked?

          But yes, you are correct about that, but I try to PSA that its not the great financial & economical depression that caused such behaviour - that behaviour is the default, the normal, what humans always did.

          Its only the extreme profit driven consumerism that followed that that indoctrinated us into the ‘buy new completely discard the old, dont think about it, it was always like this, since the dawn of time’ … a price generations are now beginning to pay.

      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        3 个月前

        They just foresaw Vance’s arrival, and were trying to protect the virtue of their innocent couches from him.

        • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
          4·
          3 个月前

          It was foretold in the lint patterns of old, embroidered into the sofas of kinds, printed on those little inside stickers that tell you how to wash things, that one day a great couch fucker will be born, a couch fucker with pretty blue eyes & mad eye-shadow game, a couch fucker to unite both the couch fucker nation, and ottoman fucker nomads, one couch fucker to rule them all (couches, not other couch fuckers).

          But the prophecies were lost to time and legend, decayed like the crusty old jizz between the cushions, subject to decades of hateful propaganda by the evil those-shitty-massage-chairs-that-dont-shiatsu-but-only-vibrate oligarchy.

          However in the end, the great couch fucker (GCF?) shall rise, and don’t do shit.
          Not for incompetence reasons, nor all the hate speech, but because love defeats all. For nothing ever compared to that first couch, the couch he took when his parents tried to throw it out, the couch that is now in his bedroom where the bed should be.

          In the end, as all great legend go, the great couch fucker was defeated by a sweet old couch that fucked, fucked good.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      I never quite understood what those were for…I remember people mocking boomers that still did that (because it was something the generation before mostly did?) but was it to preserve the couches?

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 个月前

        It was to preserve the couches. And TBF they did work for that, but they raised the question of why the fuck did you pay for expensive furniture that you never used, and why did you devote a whole room in your house to that shit? The answer is it was for “company”, i.e. visitors you didn’t like and couldn’t wait for them to leave.

  • The Pantser@lemmy.world
    23·
    3 个月前

    Can I request he stop coming to Michigan? This week marks the 3rd time since becoming Trump’s choice. We don’t want him here.

  • RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
    211·
    3 个月前

    Trump would never allow a strong male to roam his pasture. Of course he chose a limp towel to be his running mate. Vance is basically his mini me.

      • RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
        2·
        3 个月前

        Oh that’s not an issue. He’s got his name on the one hand and the info to not poop his pants on the other. He confuses the hands sometimes, but for that he’s wearing diapers. JD cries though, when the old man calls him sir poopy pants.

    • limelight79@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 个月前

      I saw a Trump/Vance sign the other day that had started as a Trump/Pence sign originally, and they just changed the first two letters of the VP’s name - the different color of those two letters made it clear.

      It made me wonder if Trump picked Vance because his name was so similar to Pence.

  • jaemo@sh.itjust.works
    10·
    3 个月前

    Don’t let’s ignore the searing hatred us gen xers have for this living example of retrograde evolution.