• @AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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          03 years ago

          What?

          What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

          What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

          What about mass surveillance via the internet?

          What about the holocaust?

          There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

          • @ChinaNumberOne@lemmy.ml
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            -13 years ago

            What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about mass surveillance via the internet?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the holocaust?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            reported and blocked

            • @stopit@lemmy.ml
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              13 years ago

              These are all simply true… NOW, I think is the point he was making, but they did start as theories (Except the holocaust part, not sure what he was getting at there)

              • @AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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                3 years ago

                The holocaust was a secret, it was a huge conspiracy among the German elite to carry out mass-executions of jews and others in the camps, a theory about which managed to circulate among the German population and elsewhere, but was doubted and contested. Until suddenly, allied armies liberated the camps and revealed to the world what was happening in them.

                This is not to say that pogroms that happened earlier on were conspiracy theories, people knew about the pogroms that occurred as the nazis came to power, and afterwards. But the mass-extermination in camps was not widely known.

                So it existed first as conspiracy and conspiracy-theory, before suddenly becoming a matter of public record.

            • EvanM
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              Thank you for the report, unless I am misunderstanding he is saying these “theories” are the truth, given the context. Could have been worded better, but in this part

              There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

              I think he is saying these are true even if some people call them theories. I interpret the thread as

              Only right wingers believe in conspiracy theories?

              yes

              I disagree, I believe all these to be true