I was listening to a podcast and the host just factually read out the things Trump has been convicted for and has been found to have done throughout the years. It’s insane! Enough shitbaggery to take down an 18th century European monarch, but Trump somehow just gets a pass on all of it, wtf?! Has this guy made a pact with Satan or what?
He stole money from cancer kids!! How does anyone politically survive that??
He survived because America is the country of incarceration and heavy punishment, and he recieved none of that. Therefore what he has done was apparently not that bad.
I’d argue that this is an example of 2 tier justice a d should make people mad as hell, but here we are.
It’s been a long game to get to this point, but the conservatives I know are completely isolated from reality at this point. They ONLY watch X and newsmax…Fox is too liberal for them these days.
All that douchbaggery has been scrubbed away in a very effective and sophisticated social engineering campaign over the last decade or so.
The cult leader can do no wrong.
…so it’s a good thing my grandparents only watch Fox News and haven’t moved into further bullshit? What a fun world to be living in now.
Yes, we lost the Global Digital Propaganda Wars
This is why you lost. The entire media complex bombards me with your messages every day. On all platforms, through most institutions. I can’t throw a rock without hitting an opposing view, one opposing view.
If I disagree or question that view, I get banned. I’m not even the least bit conservative and I’ve had enough of it. Entertainment that “isn’t for me”, news that drowns out the real issues on trump with bleating about him being a rapist felon nazi… the list goes on and on. It’s one huge firehose of propaganda and I’ve simply tuned out.
You own the psyop machine and then cry about how everyone else isn’t living in “reality”. I had thought this would have been a wake up call for self-absorbed leftists but it’s looking more and more like you are going to keep doubling down. You talk about a “cult” and yet many say the same thing about you. No republicans killed themselves over trump losing.
In your mind what is a “real” issue about Trump that hasn’t been covered? I’m curious what criticism you think has been lost here. The man has had almost every detail of himself, his circle, and his platform dissected constantly for the last forever it seems like.
Literally what worked and what didn’t. Everything is tainted with putler orange man bad. His coverage is 98% negative. The people dissecting him have an axe to grind and are hard to take seriously.
Literally what worked and what didn’t.
That’s not an answer at all.
It is an answer. The legitimate things trump does wrong are drowned in the sea of biased reporting. Even now with the tariff talk. These false stories of companies skipping christmas bonuses and crying wolf. What happens when they really do put a tariff on something they shouldn’t. That’s going to be a blip and not be remembered. What if it does spur domestic manufacturing of something, won’t be covered either. You end up in a situation where people just tune in or tune out based on their bias and end up completely uninformed at both ends.
These false stories of companies skipping christmas bonuses and crying wolf.
Uh…those aren’t false. They’ve been cross checked with AP. Also, look at the trends from his first presidency and they follow. It’s not a surprise, at all.
What if it does spur domestic manufacturing of something
Because no one will notice when all those jobs are minimum wage, no protections, shit jobs. For example…the reason there’s so many Tech layoffs right now isn’t the economy. It’s because they figured out they can fire an FTE and rehire them on contract for 20-50k cheaper due to no benefits. Trump exempted them from overtime. He’s going to do that to factory workers as well.
And you can’t manufacture anything if you don’t have the materials to build. Check out what happened in Michigan with Foxconn.
Trump bankrupted a casino…it’s a business model where people walk in and hand you money. It’s damn near impossible to lose money in that model. But he did it somehow.
I asked what you thought a legitimate criticism (that wasn’t presented enough by media) was of Trump and you essentially just hand waved. If this is such a problem in your eyes surely you wouldn’t need to use Google or soul-seek to find an example.
Do you think him being convicted of sexual abuse was just “noise” that drowned out the actual problems? Is that something not worth informing voters about? I’m confused where you’re trying to draw the line here. Is the character of a candidate not to be scrutinized? Shouldn’t we try to be sure that a candidate will do the right thing even when it isn’t reported on?
We all lost, dumbass. You’re not messaging us from another planet, are ya?
PS: Except for maybe Musk, etc. Or maybe they just don’t know it yet.
There you go assuming everyone is a progressive again. Reality has a “liberal” bias when you surround yourself in an echo chamber.
Reality has a “liberal” bias when you surround yourself in an echo chamber.
Humans are herd animals. The need to keep the herd going is a instinctual thing. The conservative view is very much self centered. It goes against our nature as a species.
Then we are certainly wired differently. I have no need to keep the “herd” going or to do what others demand beyond the practical. There is probably a collectivist vs individualist argument here too and the voluntary and involuntary aspects of cooperation herein.
But you need the herd to keep you going.
self-absorbed leftists
liberals are leftists…?
where do I start…?
Conservatives all are about exceptionalism
Has this guy made a pact with Satan or what?
Well, we have a pandemic and 2 growing wars, so if a major famine occurs next, definitely a maybe
With all the tariffs coming and the immigrant farm laborers getting deported, it just might!
Propaganda and dumb people listening to only what dumb media has to say.
Oh I have my own independent sources
“Grandpa, the Babylon Bee is not a reliable news source.”
I sometimes feel like Ouija board is a better source than many, nowadays
This is exactly why people are trying to kill him. If the system refuses to incapacitate him, the people will find a way.
The people who have tried so far seem to be right wingers more interested in making a name for themselves than any ideological motive.
Those of us who already have dancing shoes for whenever his arteries finally finish the job aren’t exactly looking forward to making him a martyr for President Vance to use either.
…with Russian cash and idiots that believe in him.
He didn’t.
Summary of evidence and concerns: Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.
Starlink, Elon’s satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).
Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she’d been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).
They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what’s real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).
Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).
Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn’t tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn’t a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups’ internet algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.
Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).
If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.
News Links
(1) https://youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA?si=mwgr4U2c2jleJEBj
(3) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html
(4) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
(6) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fire-and-fury-the-podcast/id1750757108
(7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes
(11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436
(13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615
(15) https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986
(16) https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/tana-mongeau-paid-political-endorsement
(17) https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e
(20) https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11
(21) https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots
(23) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/crypto-cryptocurrency-money-conspiracy.html
Personal Testimony from the dickbags themselves:
youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y
In the first minute:
“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”
“If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”
“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”
Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?
youtu.be/Zmc0EN8XAY8?si=5u_mJNte37r4JmUb
Trump:“Our little secret is having a big impact”
If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?
#AssetForfeitureTrumpMusk
If they get locked into years of asset forfeiture from layers and layers of state and municipal claims, we may be able to stop them
Honey, the preschool called… Dylan grabbed his first pussy! Anyway we have to find a new preschool. Fucking libs!
He’s now in the Donald Trump school for gifted children
Now he’s the one getting grabbed
He’s now in the Donald Trump school for
giftedgrifter children.FTFY
Dude…
Yeah, Reductress is a feminist spin on The Onion and they are not pulling punches.
A lot of Boy moms out there found this similarly reassuring. “My son sucks, and I was worried his inherently entitled personality and lack of boundaries would really hurt his life trajectory,” said Tyler’s mom, Jeanne McArthur. “Nice to know nothing can hold him back!”
They came after Boy moms and killed it. I’m in love with them now.
I’m a dude but holy crap Reductress is hilarious. Bookmarked.
They sat on their hands for 108 days, and now they’re coming out swinging.
Yes, Reductress is the reason Trump won. Brilliant observation. Now run along, the grown-ups are talking.
Blame everyone except the incompetent party
because the person that tried and failed to stop the criminal due to not being very good at it is the real person to blame for a crime, rather than the criminal themself
That’s so smart and insightful of you! You’re so right the democratic party should do everything exactly the same all over again. It’ll totally win them the election this time!
that isnt what I said, I said they arent the ones responsible for Trump, not that their strategy was likely to work after it failed this time.
I hope they fired those consultants.
What am I saying. They’re still taking advice from the people on Hillary’s campaign!
I’ll frame it in a proper way for you. People of America preferred a rapist criminal over a dem. You can blame people all day but it’s a democracy after all and you have to be better than being “better than the opponent”.
I thought of a few fantastic Onion headlines and was tempted to write them but they all made me deeply sad.
Oh come on now! You can’t say that without sharing. We want to be deeply sad too!
“In the wake of the Trump victory millions of Americans relieved to find out their white neighbours consider them ‘One of the good ones’”
“Deodorant shelves empty as many LGBTQI+ “Allys” realise that they might actually have to prove it”
Heh 🥲
:p Good stuff.
Nah, I see it this way: if this idiot can be president twice, YOU can do anything!
Step 1: inherit $400m
☑ Got lemons
☑ Made lemonade*as long as the Israel overlord allows it
Oh, they mean the rapist in chief.
It think they meant Jeffrey Epstein ( the most notorious pédophilie of the century ) closest friend.
I wish this were Onion material instead of fact :(
I thought this was a satire site
Representation matters!!
(Jezus, reductress!)
I doubt Trump is even the top ten most powerful sexual predator just in New York.
But I bet he knows all of them
Oh without a doubt
okay so let’s just do crazy stuff for the boys
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And the mods on Lemmy are helping them
Enabling a genocide had absolutely nothing to do with it. Putting that aside for a moment, do you honestly think Lemmy has the ability to cost Democrats 10 million votes? Maybe there’s a reason Harris didn’t win a single delegate that last time voters had a say.
We are in a global social media war and the moderators are curating content that is helping fascists.
I never said Lemmy did that alone.
Russia stole the election and I have sources and a write up if you want it.
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Summary of evidence and concerns: Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.
Starlink, Elon’s satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).
Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she’d been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).
They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what’s real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).
Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).
Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn’t tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn’t a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups’ internet algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.
Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).
If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.
News Links
(1) https://youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA?si=mwgr4U2c2jleJEBj
(3) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html
(4) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
(6) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fire-and-fury-the-podcast/id1750757108
(7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes
(11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436
(13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615
(15) https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986
(16) https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/tana-mongeau-paid-political-endorsement
(17) https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e
(20) https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11
(21) https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots
(23) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/crypto-cryptocurrency-money-conspiracy.html
Personal Testimony from the dickbags themselves:
youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y
In the first minute:
“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”
“If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”
“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”
Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?
youtu.be/Zmc0EN8XAY8?si=5u_mJNte37r4JmUb
Trump:“Our little secret is having a big impact”
If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?
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There’s no way that kind of conspiracy would go unnoticed; most of the people working the polls are big believers in the system, they would have said something if there was tampering across 10 million votes.
That’s why we need a hand recount, to verify the tabulation. And why we need ballot signature rejection rates, to compare to previous years.
Nothing the Trump admin wants to do makes sense in the context of someone genuinely helping a nation. RFK Jr who got brainworms from not eating meat properly being in charge of the health department. Removing 13th amendment. Elon being the head of the DOGE department and defunding governments agencies while funding himself. All of it. It’s hostile actions that if you were a hostile nation fighting a war, you’d do to your enemy. Poison their food. Ruin their supply chain. Ruin their ability to make technology. Ruin communications. Etc.
https://medium.com/@da82ir1jaf/elon-musk-king-of-the-dark-enlightenment-9270332c67af
Taking over Twitter at this specific time in the global geopolitical climate would potentially subvert the fight against Eurasia, putting the West and global democracy at risk, or is that exactly what he wants to do?
It will happen everywhere.
Elon Musk: “We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.”
You are not scared enough.
Its great, I, personally, am teaching my girls to check other’s allegiances and ideologies before they get to know them. If they even lean conservative I’ve told them its acceptable to clock them in the jaw. Dont associate with conservatives, dont allow them to reproduce, dont give them the comfort of social human connections that everyone needs.
That sounds like a horrible idea that will endanger your daughters. Do you know how men will react to being punched in the jaw?
Boys, they aren’t in college or the street. They’re in school.
Oh great, so your daughters will only be expelled and possibly charged with assault instead of being murdered. Excellent parenting.
I just get the feeling you have no idea what you’re talking about, bud. The choices are between being murdered or expelled? I’ll have them be expelled then yeah definitely.
What do you imagine happening if your daughter clocks a guy in the jaw in school? Lay it out for me, bud.
Same thing that happened to me. They stop bullying your friends and you. What do you think happen when these newly emboldened incels dont receive any pusback? They continue or get worse.
Edit: and I dont know what you’re expecting here dude. My family is not your family. What are you trying to accomplish?
This isn’t the 90s when you could throw punches at school. Kids get arrested now. I worked with schools for years and can assure you that going to juvie helps no one. I’m trying to protect children here, idiot. Your daughters will struggle in life at best, and be physically assaulted at worse by following your advice. I sincerely hope you get your head on straight, for your daughter’s sake.
Well that just sounds every bit as batshit insane as the far right. Basically giving them justification in their minds for being so cruel to women.
“This one bitch just punched me, for like…no reason. I just said I voted for trump, and then BAM! Shit! She punched me!”
“What did you do then?”
“Oh, a bunch of my boys saw. We held her down and beat her mercilessly. That’ll teach her!”
“Nice.”
And they’ll feel justified. All you’re doing is teaching your daughters how to encourage physical violence, which I promise you, will not wofk out well for them.
Teach them to distance themselves from conservatives, teach them their beliefs, and how they view women. Teach them how a conservative will treat them in the long run.
But don’t teach them to physically attack someone stronger than them, unprovoked, against someone who would take pleasure in returning the violence tenfold.
Nah, if people wanna go around saying “your body my choice” dont talk to the conservatives I dont give a shit. Ya’ll do what you want but me and mine aren’t associating with the side who wants women to be objects.
But that’s not what you said.
Not associating with them is fine. I even said “Teach them to distance themselves from conservatives” in my reply. But there is a HUGE difference between not talking to someone, and randomly punching them in the face.
I’m not conservative. But if someone, male or female, or trans, or whomever, if they punched me in the face for no reason I’m punching them in the face right back. And I’m the type of person who doesn’t start fights, but once I’m in one I do end fights.
Now imagine if it were a conservative who ENJOYED hitting women. Imagine they didn’t need a reason, but you just started a fight with them for no reason.
You can end your interaction based on politics, sure. That’s not insane. What is insane is teaching your daughters to go around inciting violence by themselves against a group of people who’s core belief is that women should suffer. It would be like a 1940s Jew in Germany going out and punching a nazi. It’s not going to end well.
Okay this is getting lost in my anger post and the filter of social media. In actuality, when the news says who won, when they hear the adults in my family speaking in the kitchen and they ask what’s going on I tell them, “if anyone says this to you at school, you stand up for yourself and other girls. Punch them if you have to, and make sure you hit first.” If you wanted the real raw deal of what I say word for word. Not my announcement trying to get people to get the point. I will always be like this until the Reds learn some basic fucking respect. The amount of misogynistic comments I hears after the election even in my own office sky rocketed. I dont give a shit about turning the other cheek. Fuck that. When the boot presses you beneath its heel you dont remove it by asking nicely. Punch Nazis. That family values shit they spew as a core value is exactly the same shit the Nazis did.
I suspect the “punch conservatives in the face” bit was hyperbole rather than literal
And what if there were a dinosaur in that lake?
…what?
Not a Stewart Lee fan I take it?
Who?
You’re encouraging your kids to antagonize, then hit the most unstable, violent, and newly politically minted group on earth? You think that will go well for them?
I understand self respect, but putting your girls into a fist fight with a politically motivated teenage boy sounds dumb as hell.
Late edit:
Encouraging isolated, vulnerable at risk folks to pick fights with members of a fascist “in group” is not going to work. Even if they get out of the encounter unscathed, the system will chew them up. It is not the right way to resist, especially when it’s a child.
If you dont like what I tell them to do to these people at school you’re gonna hate what I tell them to do them outside classroom.
It’s not that I don’t like it, it’s just that your effectively telling them to play in traffic.
Disengage, separate, distance.
And you’re telling them to be quiet and keep their heads down. Fuck that.
Ridiculous. I never said that, I’m Focusing on you coaching them into picking fights they will not win.
There’s self respect, advocacy, and imbalanced physical confrontation. The message is the former, the action is the latter. Punching angry, motivated, much stronger opponents FIRST is not going to work. It’s Dwight shrute shit.
Late edit:
Further, even if they get away unscathed, you’re assuming the system will defend them for starting a fight. Directly attacking low level member of a fascist group never works, as the system will chew you up. They will not be defended by the system if they throw first.
All I’m reading is excuses for misogynistic little piss boys who couldn’t take a punch. These are school kids. I refuse to have my daughters begin life being silent because its dangerous. Thats the world we live in. We have to fight for fucken basic rights again.
Dude. My comment history reflects my position on the woeld clearly. There’s zero maga joe.rogan boys will be boys shit. That’s not it. I’m not defending shit aside from calling out you are putting your girls at risk with disadvantage. It’s not that they shouldn’t fight back, it’s that if they do as you say they will lose in every possible way.
I’m contesting the idea that a lone target of a fascist group should hope to succeed either physically or systemically on their own.
The proper play is to work as a team, organize, and use the power of the group to protect the at risk in individuals.
Even if they get away, they started a fight. They will be chewed up by the system via no tolerance ruling.
Violence isn’t the answer. You make us look bad.
Yes, because taking the “high road” and not “stooping to their level” has gotten us so far.
Fascism only speaks one language, and that language is violence.
Compassion and taking the high road does work. It’s not a fruitless endeavor
Cherry picking does not work.
I prefer this one https://youtube.com/watch?v=cBo_ijfKVRM
Buddy. That’s the language you’re speaking. YOU.
YOU PERSONALLY are doing fascism right this very moment!
guys is it fascist to punch a Nazi??
I didn’t think my eyes could roll further back into my head, but here we are. 🙄
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Youre only gonna fuel their claims of our hypocrisy. Legislation also works, but youre too much of a petulant child to go thru the proper channels and thus resort to force just like the ppl you condemn. You make us look bad.
You make us look bad.
Kindly don’t lump me in with whatever you think you are. We aren’t the same, clearly. Since you want to repeat yourself, I’ll do the same.
Fascism only speaks one language: violence.
Youre right. We’re not the same. You’re a child.
They’re being sarcastic, and you’re being a weak coward that doesn’t realize they’re accidentally based as hell.
Have some standards and stop bein a whiny brat. Ther’s a reason why harris conceded, and it’s bc she wants to establish some decorum by bein a good example and not acting like you.
Weak.
You are indeed
No U!!!
Point proven
How’s your bar right about now? Is it reiching for the top?
I voted harris dumbass
The Nazi Bar has nothing to do with who you vote for. Its whose presence you tolerate.
Um, no one said i tolerated them. This is why ppl hate us, bc youre so eager to call them nazis or nazi sympathizers just bc they dont agree with you blindly. You are the worst of us. You make it impossible to want to side with us bc you act like a child.
Its because that ideology comes directly from the Nazis. Thats why I call it that. Its what it is.
Lmao, we’re gonna continue to lose and it’ll be bc of ppl like you. I literally voted for the dems, and you still want to call me a nazi sympathizer. I hope your daughters go around hitting ppl. With the cops nowadays, and the court system as stacked as it is, they’ll surely go to jail. And they’ll deserve to be there.
You sound like them. Get out. That’s not how we operate.
You can choose to be conservative, so it’s absolutely not the same
Pretending tolerating intolerance works is how we got here, punching Nazis is part of how we get out
You can choose to be liberal etc…
Your intolerance doesn’t get a magical pass any more than theirs, and I don’t give two shits who started it.
You can choose to be liberal etc…
Exactly? Punch a conservative because they’re conservative, they’re a piece of shit who’s actively advertising that fact, and if they want to not get punched they can stop being conservative whenever they want
Meanwhile conservatives are going to try and kill LGBT people and other minorities who cannot just not be gay, or suddenly be white
You not being able to tell the difference is super telling, ya little Nazi lover
Can you hear yourself right now? You’re fucking bloodthirsty and personally doing all the shit that’s bad.
Fuck off Nazi scum, punching Nazis for being Nazis isn’t being bloodthirsty nor bad
Nah, you wanna repeat Fuentes you can lose your teeth. I’ll be teaching any progeny of mine the same. Like I said, you can keep your head down all you want. We won’t do that when the misogynists are in full force by 2028.
You’re conflating a political party with misogyny to give yourself an ethics free pass? Get fucked keyboard warrior. Roll up and do your worst.
You’re conflating a political party with misogyny
You’re pretending being a Republican isn’t inherently misogynistic?
I’m not pretending. I’m not even Republican or even close to it, but you gotta realize you’re wallowing in the echo chamber.
I’m not pretending
Literally just did that in your last comment
I’m not even Republican
Nobody claimed you were, weird to suddenly defend yourself like that 🤔
Republicans voted for their representative: a known rapist, Republicans are intrinsically misogynistic and to pretend otherwise is blatant whitewashing of reality
So you’re saying you’re the misogynist? Kinda weird to out yourself by telling me to roll up if I wasn’t referring to you
I’m not saying that. You’re saying that as a discrediting measure because you don’t have anything real to say.
Neither do you. You can let your kids get bullied like you like and I’ll keep telling mine to fight back like I like. Does this arrangement work for you?
Antinatalist here.
You really gotta stop assuming things. You hear one thing and immediately presume “enemy on all fronts”.
You tell your daughters to not let other people reproduce? How old are they?
Sounds kinda like “your body my choice” is you ask me, not letting other people reproduce.
Here’s to hoping it’s a typo of “don’t have children with them”, but that’s a hell of a typo.
It’s pretty extreme. I’m picturing two 7 year olds being forced to listen to what they said.
If they even actually have any kids to begin with.You’re a lot closer than you’d think. In another comment, they say their oldest is not yet a teenager.
Gotta be a rough household to live in.
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And people downvoted my comment saying Lemmy is helping this. Why are the mods not permabanning rapists from subs? Why is this comment up?
/s that was obvious
